You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Connie Neil - Apr 14, 2011 12:53:45 pm PDT #14379 of 28293
brillig

What's an uncanonical sonnet? Or a canonical sonnet, for that matter?


megan walker - Apr 14, 2011 12:55:38 pm PDT #14380 of 28293
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Off the top of her head, my friend at Writer on the Side who works on MG and YA recommends the following (and could give it more thought if you'd like):

Walk Two Moons by Sharon Creech
Shabanu: Daughter of the Wind by Suzanne Fisher Staples
Uglies by Scott Westerfeld


Pix - Apr 14, 2011 12:55:52 pm PDT #14381 of 28293
The status is NOT quo.

A sonnet that is typically considered part of the Western Canon; i.e. ones they might be expected to be familiar with in college.


javachik - Apr 14, 2011 12:56:17 pm PDT #14382 of 28293
Our wings are not tired.

Pix, you make me wanna be a high schooler again! :)


Connie Neil - Apr 14, 2011 12:59:53 pm PDT #14383 of 28293
brillig

ones they might be expected to be familiar with in college.

For a given level of college, I imagine. Mine was a decent small school, but I don't know if there were many expectations about sonnet knowledge. Then again, I wasn't in the English department. Damn, I was way too lazy in college. My oldest sister paid for an extra semester herself so she could take classes she'd missed that weren't part of her major.

(goes to pull up the website of the local college, sees if there's anything challenging in the continuing education section)


Pix - Apr 14, 2011 1:00:32 pm PDT #14384 of 28293
The status is NOT quo.

These are all great, but most seem geared more to the YA middle school reader, and since they will be reading the entire Odyssey and Macbeth (among other texts) freshmen year, I'd like to steer them more to a book that the more advanced readers won't turn their noses up at. (Believe me, I know that those books aren't worthy of scorn, but it's a perception thing. These girls just finished middle school and want to believe they are too old for that.)

Thanks, Java!

ETA: "Expected" isn't really what I meant, I guess, Connie. No, many students won't be familiar with sonnets, but some will. These are the type of sonnets that are typically taught in high school or undergrad.


megan walker - Apr 14, 2011 1:05:57 pm PDT #14385 of 28293
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Pix, that looks great (well, except for WSS which I loathed, but the course sounds very interesting and I'm sure you would make me love it)!

Note:

de Laclos translated by Dowson

Generally when you use the last name alone you should drop the "de" so it would just be Laclos. Sorry, pet peeve of mine! (See also the use of "de Tocqueville" and "de Beauvoir" which drive me batty.)


Consuela - Apr 14, 2011 1:10:00 pm PDT #14386 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I've never heard of this. How is that possible? Must remedy instantly.

Well, I'm enjoying them. I got the first three on audiobook and I'm racing through them. Stephen Briggs is a marvelous reader.

These are all great, but most seem geared more to the YA middle school reader, and since they will be reading the entire Odyssey and Macbeth (among other texts) freshmen year, I'd like to steer them more to a book that the more advanced readers won't turn their noses up at.

Ah, yeah. That's ... a bit harder. McKinley's Beauty, maybe, although it's probably still YA. Deerskin might be a Hero's Journey, although it's pretty grim in some parts. I wouldn't call it YA, given the subject matter ( non-consensual incest ).

The problem is that I tend to think of the Hero's Journey as more YA than adult. Hmm. Still, the Westerfeld is a great call. Perhaps one of Pratchett's other novels, one of the few with a female lead?

I haven't finished it yet, but Nnedi Okorafor's Who Fears Death may well fit the archetype. And while the protagonist is a young woman, it's not a child's book: it's about bigotry and violence (and magic).


meara - Apr 14, 2011 1:28:24 pm PDT #14387 of 28293

Such interesting suggestions! Awesome.

I just read Snow Flower and the Secret Fan, Pix! It was really interesting, because I had no idea where it would go.


Polter-Cow - Apr 14, 2011 1:42:41 pm PDT #14388 of 28293
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Perhaps one of Pratchett's other novels, one of the few with a female lead?

It's been so long since I've read Thief of Time that I don't remember whether Susan has a Hero's Journey. I need to re-read that one. It's my favorite!