Jayne: 'Cause I don't know these folks. Don't much care to. Mal: They're whores. Jayne: I'm in.

'Heart Of Gold'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Pix - Apr 14, 2011 1:00:32 pm PDT #14384 of 28293
The status is NOT quo.

These are all great, but most seem geared more to the YA middle school reader, and since they will be reading the entire Odyssey and Macbeth (among other texts) freshmen year, I'd like to steer them more to a book that the more advanced readers won't turn their noses up at. (Believe me, I know that those books aren't worthy of scorn, but it's a perception thing. These girls just finished middle school and want to believe they are too old for that.)

Thanks, Java!

ETA: "Expected" isn't really what I meant, I guess, Connie. No, many students won't be familiar with sonnets, but some will. These are the type of sonnets that are typically taught in high school or undergrad.


megan walker - Apr 14, 2011 1:05:57 pm PDT #14385 of 28293
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Pix, that looks great (well, except for WSS which I loathed, but the course sounds very interesting and I'm sure you would make me love it)!

Note:

de Laclos translated by Dowson

Generally when you use the last name alone you should drop the "de" so it would just be Laclos. Sorry, pet peeve of mine! (See also the use of "de Tocqueville" and "de Beauvoir" which drive me batty.)


Consuela - Apr 14, 2011 1:10:00 pm PDT #14386 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I've never heard of this. How is that possible? Must remedy instantly.

Well, I'm enjoying them. I got the first three on audiobook and I'm racing through them. Stephen Briggs is a marvelous reader.

These are all great, but most seem geared more to the YA middle school reader, and since they will be reading the entire Odyssey and Macbeth (among other texts) freshmen year, I'd like to steer them more to a book that the more advanced readers won't turn their noses up at.

Ah, yeah. That's ... a bit harder. McKinley's Beauty, maybe, although it's probably still YA. Deerskin might be a Hero's Journey, although it's pretty grim in some parts. I wouldn't call it YA, given the subject matter ( non-consensual incest ).

The problem is that I tend to think of the Hero's Journey as more YA than adult. Hmm. Still, the Westerfeld is a great call. Perhaps one of Pratchett's other novels, one of the few with a female lead?

I haven't finished it yet, but Nnedi Okorafor's Who Fears Death may well fit the archetype. And while the protagonist is a young woman, it's not a child's book: it's about bigotry and violence (and magic).


meara - Apr 14, 2011 1:28:24 pm PDT #14387 of 28293

Such interesting suggestions! Awesome.

I just read Snow Flower and the Secret Fan, Pix! It was really interesting, because I had no idea where it would go.


Polter-Cow - Apr 14, 2011 1:42:41 pm PDT #14388 of 28293
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Perhaps one of Pratchett's other novels, one of the few with a female lead?

It's been so long since I've read Thief of Time that I don't remember whether Susan has a Hero's Journey. I need to re-read that one. It's my favorite!


Pix - Apr 14, 2011 1:48:13 pm PDT #14389 of 28293
The status is NOT quo.

I haven't finished it yet, but Nnedi Okorafor's Who Fears Death may well fit the archetype. And while the protagonist is a young woman, it's not a child's book: it's about bigotry and violence (and magic)

This sounds fascinating. I am ordering a copy.


Consuela - Apr 14, 2011 1:49:47 pm PDT #14390 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Pix, I can't speak highly enough of Okorafor; her YA fantasies are just marvelous, not only because they're set in an AU Africa. Well, sort of Africa. It's hard to explain, but they're really marvelous, and not anything like any other fantasies I've read. She's awesome.


DebetEsse - Apr 14, 2011 2:06:02 pm PDT #14391 of 28293
Woe to the fucking wicked.

A biography or autobiography may be a place to look. Googling now.

eta: I mean, from what I can tell, "Eat, Pray, Love" would qualify.


DavidS - Apr 14, 2011 3:31:16 pm PDT #14392 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've never heard of this. How is that possible? Must remedy instantly.

Well, I'm enjoying them. I got the first three on audiobook and I'm racing through them. Stephen Briggs is a marvelous reader.

Emmett and I loved The Wee Free Man via Briggs audiobook. It's very funny and it's an excellent, very affecting book. And in some ways, I think, it distills a lot of Pratchett's morality, but not in a heavy handed way. It's just that Tiffany's path leads her to find these True Things.


Hil R. - Apr 14, 2011 3:42:42 pm PDT #14393 of 28293
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I can think of a few that I'm not sure qualify as hero's journey (Davita's Harp by Chaim Potok) and a few that I'm not sure qualify as well-written (The Eight by Katherine Neville.)

t edited because I looked up "Hero's Journey" and it doesn't mean quite what I thought it meant.