Zoe: Is there any way I'm gonna get out of this with honor and dignity? Wash: You're pretty much down to ritual suicide, lambie-toes.

'War Stories'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Kat - Apr 04, 2011 3:15:51 am PDT #14289 of 28293
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I also think his desire for an assistant is much greater than his desire for love. And he squashes any joy out of his life. IOW, Maysa, AGREED.


sumi - Apr 04, 2011 4:17:53 am PDT #14290 of 28293
Art Crawl!!!

Pix - I just finished the Fevercrack and I blame you!

And it was totally cracktastic.


Typo Boy - Apr 04, 2011 4:30:19 am PDT #14291 of 28293
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

BTW Katha Pollitt loves the new JE movie.


le nubian - Apr 04, 2011 5:40:31 am PDT #14292 of 28293
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Hamlet's Raspberry:

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megan walker - Apr 04, 2011 12:08:49 pm PDT #14293 of 28293
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Upon reread (I hadn't read JE since my teen years) I was mostly struck by how much of a selfish manipulating a**hole Rochester was. Also, I apparently blocked out much of the St. John stuff since I had no memory of it being almost a third of the book.


Consuela - Apr 04, 2011 1:58:02 pm PDT #14294 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I was mostly struck by how much of a selfish manipulating a**hole Rochester was.

Well, yeah. He was within minutes of committing bigamy before Jane learned the truth about his wife. Not exactly a fine, upstanding human being.


meara - Apr 04, 2011 2:03:56 pm PDT #14295 of 28293

Yeah--not sure how close the movie was to the book, but he came across as very manipulating of a naive young girl. Rather than touched by the ending, I was rooting for her to take the damn inheritance and have some fun and meet other people who were less emotionally abusive than him!!


Amy - Apr 04, 2011 2:04:04 pm PDT #14296 of 28293
Because books.

I don't know -- I thought part of the point was how St. John was this upstanding missionary do-gooder, but really, as Maysa said, a joyless prig.

And while Rochester was, in fact, ready to commit bigamy, he was also trying to make everyone happy, within certain parameters. He wouldn't commit Bertha to an asylum, which I give him points for, and he knew Jane wouldn't live in "sin," as it were. Rochester was deeply flawed, but he was also kind and generous in his own way. Adele is an example, too. Many other men would have had nothing to do with her, or at least not had her in their home.


Barb - Apr 04, 2011 2:20:12 pm PDT #14297 of 28293
“Not dead yet!”

It was interesting-- I just read a novel that was a retelling of Jane Eyre set in 1929 Hollywood against the backdrop of films transitioning from silents to talkies. The trick here was that Jane was transformed to the male character and Mr. Rochester was female.

I had actually looked forward to the gender switch, especially given the setting, but unfortunately, this book played it poorly.


sarameg - Apr 04, 2011 2:58:03 pm PDT #14298 of 28293

I probably haven't re-read it since my early 20s, but I read JE obsessively throughout my teens. St. John just...uhg. Got so tired of him that I'd often skip those parts.

Thinking about it now, Rochester's jerkiness showcased how Jane could stand up for herself. Which, honestly, I think was a big draw for me, her challenging this formidable grump.

I've always had a thing (chicken, egg?) for uh, challenging people. Not precisely healthy, but I'm well wary of it.

My poor copy is so tattered and worn, it is amazing it still is in one piece.