Giles: I jump out of the circle, jump back in, and, and, shake my gourd. Buffy: Hey, I think I know this ritual. The ancient shamans were next called upon to do the Hokey-Pokey and to turn themselves around.

'Dirty Girls'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


EpicTangent - Mar 31, 2011 2:40:31 pm PDT #14233 of 28293
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

One word of warning--it's basically one long story broken into five books, and each one ends on a mega cliffhanger.

So it does eventually end? I got the first for free at ComicCon and liked it enough that I bought the 2nd. I bought the 3rd thinking that it would wrap a trilogy, but then saw on Amazon there were more, got a little ticked at the constant stream of cliffhangers with no real resolution, and got accidentally spoiled about Mack getting caught in the sexual thrall of one of the fae and put the third aside in disgust/disdain. It does redeem itself?


le nubian - Mar 31, 2011 2:55:27 pm PDT #14234 of 28293
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Pix, I have never heard of the category "urban fantasy." What is it? Should I just google?

I learn something new every day.


Strix - Mar 31, 2011 3:02:17 pm PDT #14235 of 28293
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Urban fantasy is a huge genre subset -- it can incorporate traditional elements of fantasy, but usually in a modern setting.

Often, it has a female protagonist. The Wikipedia definition is actually pretty good.


Pix - Mar 31, 2011 3:03:39 pm PDT #14236 of 28293
The status is NOT quo.

Urban Fantasy. It's one of my favorite genres when done well. If you're new to it, I'd suggest starting with Patricia Briggs' Moon Called or Kim Harrison's Dead Witch Walking.

Epic, yes, it ends in epic fashion (no pun intended) with the fifth book. I read them all in a row, so I didn't get frustrated, but I can see how you would be if you didn't have access to them. The first book was meh compared to the rest, IMO.


Strix - Mar 31, 2011 3:11:59 pm PDT #14237 of 28293
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Maybe I'll give them another shot. I only read the first one, and was underwhelmed.

BTW, I took one for the team Wednesday, and read the last Auel book. Basically, it's 800 pages of anthropology and herb lore cut-and-pasted from earlier texts and then 200 pages of lukewarm plot.

Ayla and Jondalar only do the prehistoric mambo a couple of times, so there's that. Like Lana's parents are still DED, Jondalar's penis is still the size of New York.

OH NOES A SPOILER!!

If you are a completist, like me, read it, but don't worry about waiting for it in paperback or at the library. You won't laugh, you won't cry, but it will finally be DONE.


Hil R. - Mar 31, 2011 3:16:06 pm PDT #14238 of 28293
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My sister was reading Jane Eyre for the first time, and she said that a bunch of the footnotes in the edition she had spoiled the ending, like by saying that some comment foreshadowed something that would happen later.


le nubian - Mar 31, 2011 3:26:08 pm PDT #14239 of 28293
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

thank you both! I look forward to starting. I'm game to try something new.


EpicTangent - Mar 31, 2011 3:30:42 pm PDT #14240 of 28293
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Epic, yes, it ends in epic fashion (no pun intended) with the fifth book.

Good to know. I was debating picking it back up, guess now I will - when I finish the 2 library books I have out based off other mentions/recs in this thread - and try to finish it up (maybe with books 4&5 already in hand to ease the frustration).

I'll second the rec of Patricia Briggs, at least the first in that series (I waffle a bit because of something that a friend let slip about events in a later book).

One word of warning about Urban Fantasy, lazy writers seem to use it as an excuse to leave logic at the door. But going off of recs in here ought to be pretty safe.

BTW, I took one for the team Wednesday, and read the last Auel book. Basically, it's 800 pages of anthropology and herb lore cut-and-pasted from earlier texts and then 200 pages of lukewarm plot.

Wow, Erin, you are a giver. So the reading strategy (should I choose to accept it) will be the Auel-standard Flip the Page, Skim for Names or Dialogue, Flip the Page, etc.

Although as I'm currently reading Gabaldon's Outlander, my brain keeps telling me I should know more about medicinal herbs (y'know, in case I'm ever transported to the 18th century and need to make myself useful). Maybe I'll skim for names and plants...

You won't laugh, you won't cry, but it will finally be DONE.

The Completist inside is kind of a PITA sometimes, ain't it?


Amy - Mar 31, 2011 3:40:19 pm PDT #14241 of 28293
Because books.

Ultimate princess dress, made of recycled or cast off Golden Books. So awesome, it's boggling. Scroll all the way down to see the whole process.


Strix - Mar 31, 2011 3:44:43 pm PDT #14242 of 28293
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I actually really read the herb lore pretty intensively in the first...3 books, and feel like, with a plant guide in hand to id plants, I might be a decent jackleg pioneer doctor's-assistant in a time-travel pinch (I like to plan for all eventualities) but there's nothing NEW in the Auel, except a lot of verbal drawings of cave art.

Which, I'm afraid, isn't as interesting (to me) as herb lore.

As far as fictional healers go, I far prefer Claire to Ayla.

ETA: Epic, I went more like "Read two pages, flip 10, read two, flip ten...)