Oh my god, the Gor books.
You know the whole "your kink is not my kink, but your kink is okay?" attitude (that's putatively the attitude that kinksters generally have towards one another -- you're into asshooks? I don't get it, but rock on with your bad self!, etc.)
Yeah, uh, there's pretty much a big division in the BDSM world, which is: (1) Weirdoes into Gor, and (2) everyone else.
It's not so much the books (although, really, they're crap and badly written and made me laugh) as the people who read them and Really Truly Believe That This Is The Way It Should Always Be, and then they run around trying to treat *everyone* within the BDSM world that way.
You got a partner who digs that whole kajira shit without laughing at you? Awesome. Keep her in a cage in your basement. I don't care. But try to get all the women at an event to address you as "Master" and to blow you? Yeah, you're going to be introduced to the concept of a detachable penis REAL fast.
I try very hard to not stereotype, but the people into Gor really tend to be wankers. They are to BDSM what Stinky Cat Piss Man is to comic-book stores.
I don't think I could take anyone seriously that takes Gor seriously. It so patently seemed like something that tried (and failed) to engage my teenaged sexuality that I can't imagine appreciating much of it much past 20. Much less patterning life on it.
I like Dune, but I'm not trying to be a Bene Gesserit.
I mean, it would be COOL. But also ludicrous.
I don't think I could take anyone seriously that takes Gor seriously.
Bingo. These dudes who walk around events and try to get all the women (and I mean ALL women, including those who exclusively identify as dominant) to address them as "Master" get (1) shunned, (2) laughed at, and (3) often asked to leave if they don't stop the non-consensual bullshit.
I mean, really. I just want to get my freak on, and some dude by the soft drinks tells me to suck his cock because he's a Gorean Master. I actually think I pulled a muscle laughing at him.
They tend to stay on the internet, but when they come to events and get all weird (the women, who address every man as "Master," tend to piss people off, too, because, hey, he's not YOUR Master), it never goes well for them.
I like Dune, but I'm not trying to be a Bene Gesserit.
Right? *I* am not building a Bat-Signal.
YET.
I decided to put off reading any of the Gor novels until the publication of Valley Girls of Gor.
Still haven't read any.
I like Dune, but I'm not trying to be a Bene Gesserit.
I am, but so far my children have thwarted my efforts to control them with Voice.
I have never read a Gor book. Sounds like I probably shouldn't bother.
Coralie Bickford-Smith has a new designed a new series of books, Great Food:
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I have never read a Gor book. Sounds like I probably shouldn't bother
I want someone to write a Good Parts edition of Gor, with all the crack-addled Burroughs adventures and none of the sexism.
... it would be a lot shorter, no doubt.
it would be a lot shorter, no doubt.
I think one book would do it for the series.
I can image a relationship with a Marvel comics fan, with someone who doesn't like bacon, with a person who can't quote Strunk and White, and even one with a comma misuser. It would be hard, but we could work through it. I can't imagine one with a Gor fan.
I'd call him Master, Tep.
Master Baiter.
I knew a guy who had a bunch of Gor books but when I asked him if he'd recommend one he got a little red in the face and started stammering.