Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Hil R. - Aug 04, 2010 3:44:34 pm PDT #11818 of 28343
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Maya Angelou?


Aims - Aug 04, 2010 3:44:55 pm PDT #11819 of 28343
Shit's all sorts of different now.

We should. And bring Hil.


Typo Boy - Aug 04, 2010 3:45:13 pm PDT #11820 of 28343
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah. Really a brain fart to mentally block on Maya Angelou. Much worse than not remembering Doris Lessing. If I can't remember William Shakespeare I'll really start worrying.


Typo Boy - Aug 04, 2010 3:59:58 pm PDT #11821 of 28343
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Now trying to remember the skin color description - Caramel, and bitter chocolate and cocoa with milk. Not exactly those but a whole list of ways to describe the variety of skin tones.


Typo Boy - Aug 04, 2010 4:43:13 pm PDT #11822 of 28343
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Still not remembering the poem. Maybe I never heard the title. Mayou read it out loud while being interviewed. She wrote it as a lighthearted piece when a white friend was describing a black friend and either did not know any words to describe skin tone or was too scared to describe skin tone to a Black person. So Maya Angelou wrote a whole poem explaining how to describe different skin shades "Mocha with a swirl" that sort of thing. When she read it she got that purr in her voice she sometimes get when she's reading something playful instead of something somber.


Connie Neil - Aug 04, 2010 6:11:44 pm PDT #11823 of 28343
brillig

There's a poem by a black man, I think, describing talking to a landlady on the phone who wanted to know how black he was before agreeing to rent to him. It ends with him saying wouldn't it be simpler if he just came over?


Typo Boy - Aug 04, 2010 6:53:19 pm PDT #11824 of 28343
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, that is dealing with something less lighthearted, internal racism within the black community over lightness or darkness. And in fact Maya Angelou has dealt with that a lot. But this poem is trying to deal with all this just a physical description, describing skin tone for the same reasons you would describe hair color - so you would know what people look like.


sarameg - Aug 04, 2010 7:10:37 pm PDT #11825 of 28343

interesting to me because gradations of hue, height and features played a predominant role in the social hierarchy of hispanic NM. And even that descriptor is challenged. Latino/mexican/hispanic. Depends on where you landed in history. Next door neighbors with a direct line to the gov and history back to the spaniards called themselves hispanic, as did most politically affiliated folk. Latino was those who'd gone more global, possibly even white, not locals, imports, intermarriages. Mexican was a shy away from derogatory, and there were further degrees in that.

It's fascinating and alarming at once.


Connie Neil - Aug 04, 2010 7:16:48 pm PDT #11826 of 28343
brillig

Is it an outward express of classism, somehow? There aren't a lot of shades of white/pink/beige/pale, but boy howdy, there's the trailer trash and everyone else.


Kat - Aug 04, 2010 7:31:00 pm PDT #11827 of 28343
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Gar, it's not Human Family is it? [link]

The one that I think is quite beautiful, but thematically totally different is Passing Time [link]