It's not like she blew me off. She just left with another guy, that's all.

Riley ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Connie Neil - Aug 04, 2010 6:11:44 pm PDT #11823 of 28343
brillig

There's a poem by a black man, I think, describing talking to a landlady on the phone who wanted to know how black he was before agreeing to rent to him. It ends with him saying wouldn't it be simpler if he just came over?


Typo Boy - Aug 04, 2010 6:53:19 pm PDT #11824 of 28343
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, that is dealing with something less lighthearted, internal racism within the black community over lightness or darkness. And in fact Maya Angelou has dealt with that a lot. But this poem is trying to deal with all this just a physical description, describing skin tone for the same reasons you would describe hair color - so you would know what people look like.


sarameg - Aug 04, 2010 7:10:37 pm PDT #11825 of 28343

interesting to me because gradations of hue, height and features played a predominant role in the social hierarchy of hispanic NM. And even that descriptor is challenged. Latino/mexican/hispanic. Depends on where you landed in history. Next door neighbors with a direct line to the gov and history back to the spaniards called themselves hispanic, as did most politically affiliated folk. Latino was those who'd gone more global, possibly even white, not locals, imports, intermarriages. Mexican was a shy away from derogatory, and there were further degrees in that.

It's fascinating and alarming at once.


Connie Neil - Aug 04, 2010 7:16:48 pm PDT #11826 of 28343
brillig

Is it an outward express of classism, somehow? There aren't a lot of shades of white/pink/beige/pale, but boy howdy, there's the trailer trash and everyone else.


Kat - Aug 04, 2010 7:31:00 pm PDT #11827 of 28343
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Gar, it's not Human Family is it? [link]

The one that I think is quite beautiful, but thematically totally different is Passing Time [link]


Typo Boy - Aug 04, 2010 7:50:20 pm PDT #11828 of 28343
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Both those poems are beautiful, but not the one I heard. Again it specifically listed ways to describe various skin shade. I wonder this was hers or if she was reading someone else's poem?


Kat - Aug 04, 2010 8:00:18 pm PDT #11829 of 28343
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Yeah, I see a passing reference to both Angelou and a poem that could be that one in jstor, but I no longer have jstor access. Though I could check when i'm on campus tomorrow.


Typo Boy - Aug 04, 2010 8:20:50 pm PDT #11830 of 28343
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Oh if you would that would be very nice - if you have time. I mean obviously no medical consequences will happen if I never learn the name of the poem, but not knowing kind of - itches, if that makes sense.


erikaj - Aug 05, 2010 6:04:07 am PDT #11831 of 28343
Always Anti-fascist!

Alice Walker writes poems, too...it could be something of hers. Unless you've confirmed it's Angelou of course.


Typo Boy - Aug 05, 2010 6:43:48 am PDT #11832 of 28343
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well I hear Angelou read it. But she read most her own poems on that interview, but some other people's too. So it was not neccessarily hers. Though I'm guessing if not her, someone not on the same level of famous.