But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!

Wash ,'War Stories'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


§ ita § - Jan 28, 2010 10:24:03 am PST #10838 of 28359
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can't believe you haven't read Catcher, Hec. I thought you were standards guy.

Me, I hated it.

I read the summaries of Vampire Diaries on Wikipedia. Crack! And I'm pretty sure the CW series is not going there.


DavidS - Jan 28, 2010 10:24:51 am PST #10839 of 28359
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I can't believe you haven't read Catcher, Hec. I thought you were standards guy.

I suspect it's one of those books you need to read by a certain age for it really resonate.


brenda m - Jan 28, 2010 10:25:15 am PST #10840 of 28359
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Catcher did nothing for me. But I read it late. I have a feeling you have to be in a certain pretty narrow window to really connect with it.

Or maybe that's just what I tell myself.

ETA: X-post vindication!


Jessica - Jan 28, 2010 10:26:56 am PST #10841 of 28359
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I suspect it's one of those books you need to read by a certain age for it really resonate.

And sometimes, not even then.

(Everyone in my class loved that book but me. I thought Holden was whiny and irritating.)


§ ita § - Jan 28, 2010 10:27:26 am PST #10842 of 28359
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought Holden was whiny and irritating

Me too.


Amy - Jan 28, 2010 10:28:34 am PST #10843 of 28359
Because books.

I didn't love Holden. But I did love Franny and Zooey.


flea - Jan 28, 2010 10:31:07 am PST #10844 of 28359
information libertarian

Holden *is* whiny and irritating. He's a depressed teenager.

I love For Esme with Love and Squalor. A lot of Salinger is too overdone for me, but that one has restraint.


Polter-Cow - Jan 28, 2010 10:37:23 am PST #10845 of 28359
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I read it in high school, and I don't really remember what I thought about it. I don't think I LOVED it, but I didn't dislike it either.


megan walker - Jan 28, 2010 11:01:45 am PST #10846 of 28359
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I thought Holden was whiny and irritating.

Oh God, yes. I think it was standard non-required prep school reading, so, I read it, but I didn't enjoy it.


Fred Pete - Jan 28, 2010 11:02:23 am PST #10847 of 28359
Ann, that's a ferret.

When I was a sophomore in high school, our English teacher gave us a 3-page list of Books Every Educated Person Should Read. The assignment: Pick one and read it. Half a dozen picked Catcher in the Rye. (I chose Brave New World.)

I did read Catcher a couple of years later. Holden is a well-drawn portrait of a certain side of adolescence -- he's supposed to be a whiny, irritating anti-hero. So on that score, I'd call Catcher a good novel that accomplishes what it sets out to do. But it certainly isn't an enjoyable read, and I fail to see how multiple generations of teenagers adopted it as The Ultimate Novel.