I just belatedly read the His Dark Materials trilogy. I knew Pullman was antireligious, but I now fail to understand why organized religion didn't join together for an ecumenical burning at the stake.
Spike: Heard what happened up top, offing your dad and all. Don't know if you know this, but, uh…I killed my mum. Actually, I'd already killed her, and then she tried to shag me, so I had to-- Wesley: Thank you. I'm…very comforted.
'Lineage'
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Ginger - Jan 01, 2010 3:56:43 pm PST #10714 of 28523
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
Dana - Jan 01, 2010 3:57:50 pm PST #10715 of 28523
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
I now fail to understand why organized religion didn't join together for an ecumenical burning at the stake.
No kidding. I also couldn't figure out why certain parties didn't object to it being marketed as young adult.
Hil R. - Jan 01, 2010 4:00:28 pm PST #10716 of 28523
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
It seemed to me like his main target was Catholicism. (I read them a few years ago, and was giving advance warning to a Catholic friend whose 9-year-old daughter was reading them a little after I did, for anything that she might want to discuss with her. I ended up giving some warnings for religious stuff and some for sexual stuff. Luckily, the girl stopped reading halfway through the second book, because I really would have had no idea what to tell her about the third.)
Ginger - Jan 01, 2010 4:00:31 pm PST #10717 of 28523
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
It's children's literature only in the sense that a child is the main protagonist.
DavidS - Jan 01, 2010 4:08:10 pm PST #10718 of 28523
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
but I now fail to understand why organized religion didn't join together for an ecumenical burning at the stake.
Well, they did successfully kill the movie.
§ ita § - Jan 01, 2010 4:21:00 pm PST #10719 of 28523
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The increasing anti-religious tone really soured me on the storytelling. It made me sad.
Beverly - Jan 01, 2010 4:30:33 pm PST #10720 of 28523
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
I'm not sure Pullman's anti-religious tone was any more pernicious than Lewis' Christian allegory, though.
sarameg - Jan 01, 2010 4:39:59 pm PST #10721 of 28523
I'm not sure Pullman's anti-religious tone was any more pernicious than Lewis' Christian allegory, though.
Yeah, that didn't ping me (in either Pullman or Lewis,) so I was kinda surprised by the reactions to them when I found 'em later. I tend to just sink into the author's mythologies when the story engages me.
Steph L. - Jan 01, 2010 5:36:23 pm PST #10722 of 28523
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I -- seriously -- didn't pick up on the Christ symbolism in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe when I first read it (at the age of 18).
I am sometimes dense.
§ ita § - Jan 01, 2010 7:18:15 pm PST #10723 of 28523
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I was a different age from when I read Narnia. But I found Pullman shrill and vicious, not something whose converse I remember from Lewis.