Spike's Bitches 29: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
In a nutshell, I don't understand the argument against it.
I think it is an issue of personal freedom.
I don't see how an electoral race which excludes the opinion of over half the electorate [...]
I don't understand how by-choice non-voters are excluded by anything except by self-exclusion.
an exclusion process which is known to be skewed against the poor, the young, immigrants and minority races (thus largely disenfranchising those in such groups who do bother to vote as well) gets to be treated as a legitimate mandate.
What is skewing it. I'm not arguing. I'm just not following, I guess.
CUTEHEAD OWEN!!!
(Courtesy of Mr. Nat King Cole.)
Hee. Ok, is there a word stronger than doomed that doesn't involve terminal saccharin poisoning?
Hey! That's not terminally saccharin! I think it's a sweet song.
That said, here are some options, according to Mssr. Roget:
beguiled, bewitched, captivated, enamored, enraptured, hooked.
I vote enraptured.
according to Mssr. Roget
I totally read this as "Mr Rogers." Very different vibe there.
Non-voters enjoy all of the benefits of a free and democratic society, while putting in none of the (really quite minimal) effort to contribute to it. The personal freedom to be a moocher isn't one I'm terribly invested in protecting.
I vote enraptured.
I dunno - my first reaction to this is to picture Christians getting Hoovered up into heaven....
Taxes, jury duty, and waiting for the light to turn green all impinge my personal freedoms. I think I can live with one more.
I vote enthralled. One day, I'ma be enthralled.
I don't see how an electoral race which excludes the opinion of over half the electorate, an exclusion process which is known to be skewed against the poor, the young, immigrants and minority races (thus largely disenfranchising those in such groups who do bother to vote as well) gets to be treated as a legitimate mandate.
Do you think that the American culture will support the low amount of declining voters and spoiled ballots if the vote were mandatory? Or would the culture support it in time? For how long would things get worse before they got better?
If I didn't want to vote now, fining me $100 is unlikely to get me to cast an informed vote, if I cast one at all and don't decide to just pay up for the privilege of not being bothered.
eta:
Non-voters enjoy all of the benefits of a free and democratic society, while putting in none of the (really quite minimal) effort to contribute to it. The personal freedom to be a moocher isn't one I'm terribly invested in protecting.
Eh, you protect my freedom to be a moocher. Although I've been paying taxes without representation for 13 years now, so I don't feel that moochy.
{{{Cass}} I'm so sorry your relatives are assheads. Is there any way that they'd give the neicelet to you?
I like enthralled.
Owen is adorable. He looks so grown up!
We colored eggs on Saturday and then did the egg hunt Sunday morning with the neighbor kids. I forgot to take pictures on Sunday--having too much fun watching the babies run, but here are pics from the egg coloring. [link]
I totally read this as "Mr Rogers." Very different vibe there.
Me, too.
Non-voters enjoy all of the benefits of a free and democratic society, while putting in none of the (really quite minimal) effort to contribute to it. The personal freedom to be a moocher isn't one I'm terribly invested in protecting.
Not so. They are subject to taxes, the draft (when in force), and other governmental requirements. They are expected to obey the laws, and subject to the same consequences, when they don't. They have to live under the administrations of the people they defacto-choose (that is help to elect) by not voting.
If someone is totally uniformed, and just goes and picks any oldass name off a list so he's not fined, how is he contributing to the process in any meaningful way, except perhaps, by introducing an element of chaos?
I mean, I get what you and brenda are saying, but what kind of freedom is it to choose a leader, if you're making people do it. If they're not invested? Fine.
Deena, Aidan looks like a super scientist who's plotting to take over the world.
Your babies (including the grown one) are beautiful.
I mean, I get what you and brenda are saying, but what kind of freedom is it to choose a leader, if you're making people do it. If they're not invested? Fine.
I think eventually most people would get invested in the process. But it is sort of like "sit at the table voting booth until you've eaten your broccoli voted".
CUTEHEAD OWEN!
Damn that is a good lookin' kid ya got there. Two of em, actually!
