Can I mop your brow? I am at the ready with the fearsome brow-mop.

Wash ,'Objects In Space'


Spike's Bitches 29: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

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Cashmere - Apr 17, 2006 6:44:19 am PDT #9603 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Our Easter trip to Indiana turned out pretty well. The DVD player in the minivan has wireless headsets so that Owen can watch his Elmo DVD's while we listen to the radio or our CD's separately. I can't stress how fucking GREAT this is.

We had birthday cake at my sister's house for him.

Monkey Cake!

Death or Cake?

We don't need no stinkin' forks!


billytea - Apr 17, 2006 6:45:36 am PDT #9604 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

(Courtesy of Mr. Nat King Cole.)

Hee. Ok, is there a word stronger than doomed that doesn't involve terminal saccharin poisoning?

What prompted this from DH was that when we were discussing South Dakota, is that the entire state of SD has roughly the same population as the city of Columbus--but they get 3 electoral votes. I'm sure he could support his position with pie charts and graphs and stuff.

Yup. As noted, I don't support the biased weighting within the EC, which is what your DH is talking about there. I understand how it originated, but there isn't really much likelihood of discrimination in the US against states qua states anymore, such discrimination will play out from other factors. And on such factors, the current weighting discriminates against urban populations for no good reason.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 17, 2006 6:49:43 am PDT #9605 of 10001
What is even happening?

In a nutshell, I don't understand the argument against it.
I think it is an issue of personal freedom.
I don't see how an electoral race which excludes the opinion of over half the electorate [...]
I don't understand how by-choice non-voters are excluded by anything except by self-exclusion.
an exclusion process which is known to be skewed against the poor, the young, immigrants and minority races (thus largely disenfranchising those in such groups who do bother to vote as well) gets to be treated as a legitimate mandate.
What is skewing it. I'm not arguing. I'm just not following, I guess.


Steph L. - Apr 17, 2006 6:53:38 am PDT #9606 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

CUTEHEAD OWEN!!!

(Courtesy of Mr. Nat King Cole.)

Hee. Ok, is there a word stronger than doomed that doesn't involve terminal saccharin poisoning?

Hey! That's not terminally saccharin! I think it's a sweet song.

That said, here are some options, according to Mssr. Roget:

beguiled, bewitched, captivated, enamored, enraptured, hooked.

I vote enraptured.


Jessica - Apr 17, 2006 6:55:48 am PDT #9607 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

according to Mssr. Roget

I totally read this as "Mr Rogers." Very different vibe there.

Non-voters enjoy all of the benefits of a free and democratic society, while putting in none of the (really quite minimal) effort to contribute to it. The personal freedom to be a moocher isn't one I'm terribly invested in protecting.


tommyrot - Apr 17, 2006 6:56:15 am PDT #9608 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I vote enraptured.

I dunno - my first reaction to this is to picture Christians getting Hoovered up into heaven....


brenda m - Apr 17, 2006 6:57:21 am PDT #9609 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Taxes, jury duty, and waiting for the light to turn green all impinge my personal freedoms. I think I can live with one more.


§ ita § - Apr 17, 2006 7:00:06 am PDT #9610 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I vote enthralled. One day, I'ma be enthralled.

I don't see how an electoral race which excludes the opinion of over half the electorate, an exclusion process which is known to be skewed against the poor, the young, immigrants and minority races (thus largely disenfranchising those in such groups who do bother to vote as well) gets to be treated as a legitimate mandate.

Do you think that the American culture will support the low amount of declining voters and spoiled ballots if the vote were mandatory? Or would the culture support it in time? For how long would things get worse before they got better?

If I didn't want to vote now, fining me $100 is unlikely to get me to cast an informed vote, if I cast one at all and don't decide to just pay up for the privilege of not being bothered.

eta:

Non-voters enjoy all of the benefits of a free and democratic society, while putting in none of the (really quite minimal) effort to contribute to it. The personal freedom to be a moocher isn't one I'm terribly invested in protecting.

Eh, you protect my freedom to be a moocher. Although I've been paying taxes without representation for 13 years now, so I don't feel that moochy.


Deena - Apr 17, 2006 7:06:59 am PDT #9611 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

{{{Cass}} I'm so sorry your relatives are assheads. Is there any way that they'd give the neicelet to you?

I like enthralled.

Owen is adorable. He looks so grown up!

We colored eggs on Saturday and then did the egg hunt Sunday morning with the neighbor kids. I forgot to take pictures on Sunday--having too much fun watching the babies run, but here are pics from the egg coloring. [link]


Topic!Cindy - Apr 17, 2006 7:07:48 am PDT #9612 of 10001
What is even happening?

I totally read this as "Mr Rogers." Very different vibe there.
Me, too.
Non-voters enjoy all of the benefits of a free and democratic society, while putting in none of the (really quite minimal) effort to contribute to it. The personal freedom to be a moocher isn't one I'm terribly invested in protecting.
Not so. They are subject to taxes, the draft (when in force), and other governmental requirements. They are expected to obey the laws, and subject to the same consequences, when they don't. They have to live under the administrations of the people they defacto-choose (that is help to elect) by not voting.

If someone is totally uniformed, and just goes and picks any oldass name off a list so he's not fined, how is he contributing to the process in any meaningful way, except perhaps, by introducing an element of chaos?

I mean, I get what you and brenda are saying, but what kind of freedom is it to choose a leader, if you're making people do it. If they're not invested? Fine.