billytea, on the way to my mother's house for dinner yesterday, somehow the topic of voting was raised. I mentioned to the kids that I thought voting was compulsory, in Australia. Was I correct? If so, what do they do to people who don't vote? The kids want to know.
1. You speak the truth.
2. There's a fine of $100 for not voting, which can be avoided if the voter has reason for an exemption (there are exemptions for religious reasons, for instance).
A person can of course deliberately submit an invalid vote without penalty.
I just want there to be some light at the end of this. But I don't see it right now. I just don't. That kills me.
Ah, the reason you can't see it, Cass is that
you're
the light at the end of this.
You're the grownup who never lies to her. You're the grownup who is always kind to her. You're the grownup who is happy and loving and considerate. And when she lives through this rediculous pergatory, which she will, YOU are the reason she will know what a good and beautiful person SHE can be.
Awwwww, cute überdoomed bt!
Re: career councelling. I don't believe I ever got any. (That could explain a lot. Or, looking at other's experiences, not.) I had a councelor tell me I was taking too many AP/Honors classes. (I kept an "A" average that year.) I had advisors sign off on college classes. Otherwise, it was just assumed I'd go to college and become a teacher of some sort.
DH's experience with the high school counselor went something like this:
DH: "I'm good at math. What can do with math where I make the most money but do the least amount of work?"
HS Counselor: "You should be an actuary."
Thanks, billytea. I told them it was probably a fine, but I figured it was worth confirming.
A person can of course deliberately submit an invalid vote without penalty.
Do you mean something such as a blank ballot, or with "Wallybee" as a write-in entry?
What do you think of compulsory voting? It saddens me that so few Americans vote, but I can often understand their reasons, and I can't understand the rationale behind mandating it.
What do you think of compulsory voting? It saddens me that so few Americans vote, but I can often understand their reasons, and I can't understand the rationale behind mandating it.
What's the percentage of voter turnout? And what's the rate of invalid ballots? If a large enough number of people are voting, I think the Aussie's might be on to something here.
DH and I were discussing voting yesterday (well, actually discussing South Dakota and the electoral college). He thinks we should move to strictly popular voting and get rid of the EC altogether.
DH: "I'm good at math. What can do with math where I make the most money but do the least amount of work?"
Hee. That was pretty much my thought process. I knew about actuaries, because the high school careers guide was arranged alphabetically.
Do you mean something such as a blank ballot, or with "Wallybee" as a write-in entry?
Either one would work. Or you can put a '1' next to two candidates, write "McKneeGrasper is the shizznit!" instead of numbering his box, or just write in "I can't decide! *giggle*" My favourite is a bod who drew a big anarchy symbol on the ballot paper.
What do you think of compulsory voting? It saddens me that so few Americans vote, but I can often understand their reasons, and I can't understand the rationale behind mandating it.
In a nutshell, I don't understand the argument against it. I don't see how an electoral race which excludes the opinion of over half the electorate, an exclusion process which is known to be skewed against the poor, the young, immigrants and minority races (thus largely disenfranchising those in such groups who do bother to vote as well) gets to be treated as a legitimate mandate.
(You can count me in the 'pro-compulsory voting' camp, I guess.)
What's the percentage of voter turnout? And what's the rate of invalid ballots? If a large enough number of people are voting, I think the Aussie's might be on to something here.
Turnout hasn't been less than 94% since the mid-50s, IIRC. The rate of invalid ballots is in the single digits. Donkey voting (e.g. just numbering in order straight down the page) is a potential issue, which the Australian system deals with by randomly ordering the candidates on each ballot slip.
DH and I were discussing voting yesterday (well, actually discussing South Dakota and the electoral college). He thinks we should move to strictly popular voting and get rid of the EC altogether.
Funnily enough, though I don't agree with the weighting in the EC that gives greater weight to the less populous (and thus generally less urban) states, I'm in favour of having something like it. The 2000 election involved an extremely contentious and IMO thoroughly botched dispute over the state of Florida. Without an EC, the popular vote was still close enough (i.e. well within the margin of error) to lead to a dispute over the entire country. Would've been highly impractical to have to investigate all the voting irregularities in every state and county of a nation the size of the US.
LOST: Motivation. Vaguely greenish in color, has a fondness for mojitos and good conversation, goes by the name "Joe" and has run far, far from home. If found, please notify Stressed College Student Immediately. (Only valid for the next 34 days.)
Happy birthday ND!
My god, we're almost ready for another thread, aren't we?
Donkey voting (e.g. just numbering in order straight down the page)
For a brief moment, I thought you had a problem with donkeys voting....
Hey!(lifelong Dem...that's my "hey!")
