Willow: Something evil-crashed to earth in this. Then it broke out and slithered away to do badness. Giles: Well, in all fairness, we don't really know about the "slithered" part. Anya: No, no, I'm sure it frisked about like a fluffy lamb.

'Never Leave Me'


Spike's Bitches 29: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

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DavidS - Mar 29, 2006 3:11:26 pm PST #6057 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Are you just too expensive or something?

Not really. I'm underpaid for the market, but they did bring in the new (very young, just out of college) coworker at a lower rate.

You sound like such a model employee

I'm definitely not that, but I do have value. I know much more about our systems than anybody else in the office and how things need to be processed. That's what started the whole thing, in a way. They had to use me to do the personnel action to set up the temp with my job title. Because they don't know how to do it. Ditto, on me having to calculate my vacation balance. They don't know how to do it.

They could have somebody from another office do it, and they'll learn eventually, but it is telling that most of my clues came from the fact that they're all so inept and ignorant of our firm's protocols.

I don't get why they are firing you to begin with.

I'm really curious (and at times paranoid) about what they're going to say. Because there's no precipitating event. There's nothing I've gotten a talking to about. There's no malfeasance or misconduct that I've committed. I'm just not the person that LA Boss wants in this job in this office. I think.


DavidS - Mar 29, 2006 3:12:28 pm PST #6058 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I hope they wise up and give you one, though.

I've heard it'll only be "two weeks in lieu of notice." Possibly four weeks since I'm over 40.


Nicole - Mar 29, 2006 3:18:06 pm PST #6059 of 10001
I'm getting the pig!

I'm not, in any way, saying that I agree with what your boss did, Hec. And I definitely think the line about looking you in the eye and swearing she doesn't know anything is absolutely, undeniably rude and wrong. As others have said, there are more decent ways to go about abiding by The Rules.

It's just... I've been in her situation and I've done the "I'm not able to discuss this with you. I'm very sorry." line and it bit me in the ass. Hard. I thought I knew how the person would handle the situation and I was wrong. And I was punished for it.

Anyway, enough about that. Bottom line is that I hope something ten times better lands in your lap and in no time at all you're grateful that the asshat company let you go. Even though they could've done it in a more decent way.


DawnK - Mar 29, 2006 3:18:26 pm PST #6060 of 10001
giraffe mode

Are you just too expensive or something?

This was my question too. I mean, really the cost of hiring and training a new employee is pretty high not to mention the ramp up, learning curve, etc versus a seasoned employee who knows the in's and out's. I think they have a right to worry about wrongful termination/age discrimination lawsuit since there's no clear reason to fire you. (Oh and your ex-Good Boss was totally sucky - she didn't need to lie straight to your face. That's just bad behavior)

Also? This whole situation sucks donkey ass!


DavidS - Mar 29, 2006 3:30:09 pm PST #6061 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm not, in any way, saying that I agree with what your boss did, Hec.

I know that, Nicole.

It's just... I've been in her situation and I've done the "I'm not able to discuss this with you. I'm very sorry." line and it bit me in the ass.

I'm in HR, I know the score. But in this instance, it also means I know there are much more professional ways to do this.

Fuck, brain-damaged gibbons could be more professional than they are.

::wishes his boss was a brain damaged gibbon to test this theory::


Cashmere - Mar 29, 2006 3:31:11 pm PST #6062 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Hec, I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. Your employers are evil fuckwads. You deserve better than this and I hope you find a new, better job and can tell them to EAT IT.


billytea - Mar 29, 2006 3:31:21 pm PST #6063 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

wishes his boss was a brain damaged gibbon to test this theory

I believe the gibbons are our future / Teach them well, and let them lead the way


libkitty - Mar 29, 2006 3:46:06 pm PST #6064 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Hec, I'm so sorry. I am, upon occasion, naive. That sounds pretty definite though. That so sucks, especially the straight out lie. I'm so sorry.


SailAweigh - Mar 29, 2006 3:58:16 pm PST #6065 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Man, Hec, that whole situation bites a big one. I hope wherever you go from there has people with a little moral character and some backbone.


Laura - Mar 29, 2006 4:20:20 pm PST #6066 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Fuck fuck fuck. This is so unbelievably shitty. And you know what? Especially fuck Nice Boss. What did she think, you were going to go postal on her in her office if she leveled with you?

I don't know how you are about such things, but I was in a similar situation once and I cried when they fired me. I knew it was coming for a good long time so not actually shocked. The person who did the deed deserved to feel like low life scum so I cried. She was way more upset than I was before it was over. Yes, I am that vindictive.