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Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Theodosia - Apr 17, 2005 4:47:09 am PDT #9818 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Seconding that, Matt. There's a large overlap with Due South fandom, somehow. Perhaps it's the Canadian factor kicking in.


Dana - Apr 17, 2005 7:22:47 am PDT #9819 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

and a lot of it is excellent.

Including some excellent gen.


Consuela - Apr 17, 2005 12:36:25 pm PDT #9820 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Some of the excellent stuff is by Dana.


Emily - Apr 24, 2005 6:44:48 am PDT #9821 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

So, this whole Australian thing? Hugely annoying. Disrupting my online fannish routine. Also, I think, really bad law.


Consuela - Apr 24, 2005 6:46:14 am PDT #9822 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

What Australian thing, Emily?


Emily - Apr 24, 2005 7:03:56 am PDT #9823 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Oh, sorry. Um... the text of the particular act seems to be here and some discussion here. That lj seems to be particularly focused on how that act (and others) affect chan, but there are a lot of people who write, say, 16- or 17-year-old characters who've gotten nervous. A lot of HP writers have taken their stuff off the Web completely (including a ridiculously multiparted work in progress that I was reading).

ETA: so yeah, largely HP writers for obvious reasons, but not exclusively.

EATA: Also, skyehawke.com apparently operates under Australian law, so there's some concern there. Comments at [link]


Fay - Apr 24, 2005 7:48:26 am PDT #9824 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Huh. Bugger.

I suppose I'd better take Invisible to See down from Skyehawke, then. My characters are seventeen, but from the looks of things they need to be 18+. Which - annoying. Although I actually rather sympathise with (what little I gather from a cursory scan of the info of) the Act, because chan totally does my head in.

Meanwhile, a friend has just fallen belatedly into X Files fandom...except that she can't find any fandom to fall into. I've pointed her towards fic, but what she actually wants is meta, and discussions, and suchlike. Anyone got any suggestions? Most X Files writers I can think of have moved on to pastures new - is that the case for everyone? Or is there anywhere she could go, maybe even just to read up on OLD meta?


Dana - Apr 24, 2005 8:17:43 am PDT #9825 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I've missed most of the Australian discussion but caught some of the Skyehawke discussion, Fay. Penknife had a post about it in her LJ that's probably worth looking at.


Emily - Apr 24, 2005 8:19:46 am PDT #9826 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Chan doesn't exactly flip my lid, either, but there isn't evidence that it contributes to actual, um... actions. My verbal skills seem to be gone, sorry.


Fay - Apr 24, 2005 9:54:41 am PDT #9827 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Cheers, Dana!

Chan doesn't exactly flip my lid, either, but there isn't evidence that it contributes to actual, um... actions. My verbal skills seem to be gone, sorry.

My understanding (v. limited) is that abusers generally pass through a number of stages before actually acting upon their desires. A key thing in this progress is normalising the desire, often through finding like-minded people. From engaging in quite a lengthy discussion wrt Parent-child incest in fic (and the related topics of chan and cross-generational relationships) I have come to wrap my head around why some people write Adult/child. Kind of. In terms of romanticising the sugar daddy figure (as in 'The Seventh Veil') and the reader/writer casting themself as the younger person.

However, there are a hell of a lot of adults out there who see children (and I'm not talking sexually mature teenagers of the Britney Spears variety, I'm talking children) as objects of erotic desire. There are a LOT of those people out there, whether we're actively engaging with them in fandom or not. It bothers the hell out of me that some of them could (and surely MUST, because it is not hard to find things online) be reading fanfic. Maybe even showing it to children, in the way that abusers DO sometimes show porn to the children they're grooming. I don't think that's a wild and crazy possibility, I think it's a likelihood, and it bothers the hell out of me.

Er. So - yeah. Still. Arse. Feck.