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'The Girl in Question'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Consuela - Sep 23, 2004 1:39:01 pm PDT #8989 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

So this is interesting, I've never come across it before.

Someone's selling PDFs of a fic zine. I understand why, once upon a time, you sold zines for money to cover the cost of xeroxing and mailing. But what justifies selling access to an electronic file?

t peers sideways suspiciously


Katie M - Sep 23, 2004 1:49:30 pm PDT #8990 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

My understanding from catching the edges of a discussion which I'm pretty sure was about that very zine is that they're justifying it by saying it's compensating them for their time coding etc. (No one was terribly impressed by that argument, but that's what I remember hearing third-hand that it was.)


Connie Neil - Sep 23, 2004 1:56:07 pm PDT #8991 of 10000
brillig

it's compensating them for their time coding etc.

With Adobe, it's a straight conversion of text to PDF. There must be pictures or something. though I doubt that would impress any lawyers.


§ ita § - Sep 23, 2004 2:02:52 pm PDT #8992 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe for their time doing layout? It can be significant.


Consuela - Sep 23, 2004 2:02:57 pm PDT #8993 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I believe there is art as well.

But in a universe where publishable-quality fic and fanart is available for free on the net, I'm really not getting the warm fuzzies here. What makes them so great that their time producing it gets paid for when my time coding websites doesn't?

Hell, if we had to pay Shrift for all the time she spends coding fansites, she'd have more than enough money to move to LA.

... huh.


Consuela - Sep 23, 2004 2:04:32 pm PDT #8994 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Maybe for their time doing layout? It can be significant.

That may well be. But traditionally fanzines only recovered out of pocket actual costs, not time. Because if you cover someone's time, then the fan producing it is making money, and that's treading on the producer's right to earn from the source product.


§ ita § - Sep 23, 2004 2:05:46 pm PDT #8995 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not saying it's right -- just that coding mightn't be where the time went, but layout instead.

Don't know, didn't read their justification.


Katie M - Sep 23, 2004 2:06:08 pm PDT #8996 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Well, hey, if people'll pay. *shrug* I understand that set of authors are very popular in a particular Daniel-centric portion of the fandom.


Consuela - Sep 23, 2004 2:18:39 pm PDT #8997 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah, it's just... it's the sort of thing that makes studio lawyers twitchy. Ya know?


Katie M - Sep 23, 2004 2:26:03 pm PDT #8998 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Oh, I agree! I wouldn't do it, even if the idea didn't make me giggle. (No, really, pay me money!)