Hey, can anyone tell me how the Mary Sue phenomenon got its name? There are tons of sites explaining what it is, but I'm having trouble finding out where the name comes from.
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Emily - Aug 07, 2004 7:17:17 am PDT #8786 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
§ ita § - Aug 07, 2004 7:26:07 am PDT #8787 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Someone wrote a parody in the Trekverse of the oh-so-perfect phenom, named the protagonist Mary Sue, and Bob's your uncle.
Anne W. - Aug 07, 2004 7:26:16 am PDT #8788 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
I've heard it's from a ST:TNG fic with an Ensign Mary Sue, who was brilliant, etc. and died saving the day. I'm not sure if the fic was in earnest or if it was written to parody a phenomenon the writer had noticed in numerous fanfics.
This is all hearsay, of course.
§ ita § - Aug 07, 2004 7:29:46 am PDT #8789 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's not TNG -- it's TOS, and was published in 'zine form. Lemme see if I can track down cites.
eta: from Too good to be true: 150 years of Mary Sue:
The classic portrait is Paula Smith's, who gave her her name and defined her in Trek fiction in 1974: Mary Sue -- a beautiful and desirable half-Vulcan -- captivates Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, rescues them with a hairpin during an away mission, and -- fighting off the effects of the disease which has laid low her superior officers -- runs the Enterprise single-handedly before dying, wept over by her agonized superiors
Anne W. - Aug 07, 2004 7:34:18 am PDT #8790 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
Ah. Thanks for the clarification.
Emily - Aug 07, 2004 7:49:45 am PDT #8791 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Heh. I actually read that article, but I guess I skipped that bit. Thank you!
Fay - Aug 07, 2004 4:51:46 pm PDT #8792 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Okay, this is just excellent. Bless. Bless. Bless. Bless. Bless. I am utterly disarmed. It's like cheese and jam - not the most obvious combination, but by God, it works.
Am-Chau Yarkona - Aug 07, 2004 9:44:09 pm PDT #8793 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty
I know. Snape/Hagrid is one of my more way out OTPs-- they fit together so well! It all makes sense, somehow.
Consuela - Aug 08, 2004 5:20:38 pm PDT #8794 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
The Multiverse 2004 ficathon is done and the stories are posted here. Some of them are good, some not so much. As one might expect.
But if you're in the mood to see John Crichton snark at Jack O'Neill, or Aeryn Sun kick Mal Reynold's ass, this is the place to find it.
Vonnie K - Aug 08, 2004 5:21:18 pm PDT #8795 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
Ehh, so. We finally got around to updating Bright Shiny Objects, almost a month late.
Man, I'm all plotzed that august is writing Buffy. Her way with words just kills me. The apocalyptic Buffy/Giles? Blew my mind. I mean, it's Buffy/Giles! Who knew?