I'm just, uh, just feeling kinda... truthsome right now. And, uh... life's just too damn short for ifs and maybes.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Katie M - May 02, 2003 11:43:46 am PDT #5348 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Transfigurations? Which is currently living on my Palm? Less plotty than it might be, because the main focus of the story is Harry redefining Draco. The plot, though, is surprisingly good.

Yeah, that's the one.


Consuela - May 02, 2003 11:46:27 am PDT #5349 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

things I'd seen had lead me to believe that the Things Making It Happen didn't count as plotty unless they were the majority of the story.

Well, I think balance is the key -- a story that wraps the character development, the changes in relationships and internal motivations tightly with the external Things Happening, that's a damned near perfect story for me. Something like Analise's Weight of the World, in which the interior life of the characters is driven by, and drives, the external happening? That's the way it should be for me.

If I spend too much time contemplating relationships without any action, I get bored. If it's all action without any character insight, I get grumpy.

I've written both plotty and nonplotty stories. Plotty, for me, is harder, because I do demand there be a character arc wrapped in with the plot arc, and so I have to juggle more elements. Just character, or just plot? Not so hard.

Just my 2 baht, adjusted for inflation.


Connie Neil - May 02, 2003 11:46:36 am PDT #5350 of 10000
brillig

You and I share almost opposite reading tastes, Plei. I am that bane of the librarian and the literature teacher, the escapist reader. I want an adventure, not the journal of a person's inner turmoil. Other people's inner turmoil doesn't move me, unless they're being internally tumultuous while on their way to do something.

I do get annoyed that people--no one here, of course!--call my tastes lowbrow.


P.M. Marc - May 02, 2003 11:46:42 am PDT #5351 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I guess we're back to definition here. If someone uses "plotty" to mean, say, "densely plotted", then I can start to narrow stuff down some.

I think I'm seeing it often used as shorthand for densely plotted, yerp.


amych - May 02, 2003 11:47:55 am PDT #5352 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think I'm just gonna follow Suela around waving a "what she said" banner.


Consuela - May 02, 2003 11:50:30 am PDT #5353 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

t blush


Steph L. - May 02, 2003 11:57:03 am PDT #5354 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

To me, "plotty" means the point of the story is the unfolding events, not character interactions or character development

Hmmm. I tend to believe that the characters *drive* the plot, but then I'm also thinking novels, not fanfic.


P.M. Marc - May 02, 2003 12:05:53 pm PDT #5355 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Hmmm. I tend to believe that the characters *drive* the plot, but then I'm also thinking novels, not fanfic.

I can't really separate the two, in terms of how I think of them as a reader. (Obvious distinctions re: writing)


Theodosia - May 02, 2003 12:08:52 pm PDT #5356 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I started out writing fanfic in an X-Men APA, where all the fanfic was of course plot-driven, since that was the model we used derived from the comics. It wasn't until much later when I was out into the wider world of fanfic that I ran across non-plot-centered fanfic. So I'm more than a little biased by my personal history.


esse - May 02, 2003 12:10:19 pm PDT #5357 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I want an adventure, not the journal of a person's inner turmoil.

I tend to want both. Those stories are very, very hard to find, but when I find them I hang on to them very, very hard.

I'm not sure I've ever really written a "plotty" story, then, by the definitions above. Hm.