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Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Atropa - Mar 06, 2003 1:53:12 pm PST #3948 of 10000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

"you should write professionally!" thing tends to be a high compliment in the fic world.

On that note --

A very dear friend of mine (who is a Real!Published!Author, with awards and stuff) has recently been sucked into reading LotR fanfic. She said that she's keeping a list of the best ones she finds, because she plans on emailing those writers and putting them in touch with her agent and editor. I told her that was a very cool thing to be doing.


deborah grabien - Mar 06, 2003 1:55:16 pm PST #3949 of 10000
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Yeah, there's a subset of fandom that does this too. "No, you're too good to waste yourself on fanfic!"

OK, that's just weird. Because if fanfic is something one shouldn't waste oneself on, why in sweet fuck is the person with that attitude reading the stuff in the first place?

I'm just going to take it as complimentary. I think she meant it that way. it just threw me, and anyway, I hadn't had nearly enough coffee.

Oh, and Dana was there when the leather-lace-crossbow photo was taken. Betsy made the hat in my living room and wore it for the photo (hence the lace) and ita was wearing her brand-new matrix Lawrence Fishburne coat.


deborah grabien - Mar 06, 2003 1:59:16 pm PST #3950 of 10000
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Jilli, it is very cool. As another real live one, I tend to push writers whose work I like towards agents and editors I know, as well.

But I do have a wish: I do wish all the superb writers out there who haven't sent things out, or moved into "publishable" fiction (as opposed to a subset of someone's else's intellectual property, because that narrows what can be done with it), would stop thinking of themselves as less than 'real" writers.

"Saleable" and "good" are so very much not the same thing. And "saleable" and "real" are most definitely not.


Atropa - Mar 06, 2003 2:01:46 pm PST #3951 of 10000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

"Saleable" and "good" are so very much not the same thing. And "saleable" and "real" are most definitely not.

nod nod nod

Kij keeps saying that to me. Along with loaded questions such as "So, have you had any free time to write any of the stories you've told me about?"

She is a Good Egg, and if there was a feasable way for her to pack me in her luggage and take me to IFC as her valet, she'd do it.


Consuela - Mar 06, 2003 3:36:20 pm PST #3952 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

She said that she's keeping a list of the best ones she finds, because she plans on emailing those writers and putting them in touch with her agent and editor. I told her that was a very cool thing to be doing.

Good GOD, Jilli. Your friend is a SAINT.

I know so many hideously talented ficcers who can't sell a word. And then there are those of us who haven't tried...


Anne W. - Mar 06, 2003 3:38:22 pm PST #3953 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Kij

Is this the Kij Johnson who wrote The Fox Woman? It's in my to-be-read pile, and it looks nummy.


Fay - Mar 06, 2003 3:41:55 pm PST #3954 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Yeah, there's a subset of fandom that does this too. "No, you're too good to waste yourself on fanfic!"

Um. I know I've written to people and said "Damn, do you write professionally? Because you really, really should." Which maybe does sound like it's dissing the fic thing, but it's just - there's so much published fiction out there, much of which is pants, and when you read really good stuff for free you sometimes think the writer really should be being rewarded financially. Um.


Atropa - Mar 06, 2003 3:42:14 pm PST #3955 of 10000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Is this the Kij Johnson who wrote The Fox Woman? It's in my to-be-read pile, and it looks nummy.

Yes it is, and The Fox Woman is indeed nummy. And soon, soon! I will be getting a print out of her new MS.


deborah grabien - Mar 06, 2003 3:45:31 pm PST #3956 of 10000
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Fay, that's my take on an awful lot of fic writers out there; besides liking what they do with the fic, I like their voices, period, and would like to see what they do with original fiction as well.

And gods, yes, a cheque for the effort, it's a lovesome thing.


Dana - Mar 06, 2003 3:45:51 pm PST #3957 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Um. I know I've written to people and said "Damn, do you write professionally? Because you really, really should." Which maybe does sound like it's dissing the fic thing, but it's just - there's so much published fiction out there, much of which is pants, and when you read really good stuff for free you sometimes think the writer really should be being rewarded financially. Um.

Gack. I didn't mean to make anyone uncomfortable. We all know, darling Fay, glorious Fay, that any feedback you send is darling and glorious.

It's specifically the "waste" thing that bemuses me. I mean, it's still a compliment, sure. But kind of...backhanded.