It's like, in the middle of all this, I'm paranoid that you'll think I don't like poetry.

Buffy ,'Empty Places'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Anne W. - Feb 19, 2003 1:14:55 pm PST #3660 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I sometimes enjoy the happily ever after with white picket fence cliche, but I think I'm discerning enough to not see it when it's not the author's intent.

Wrod. Sometimes, the white picket fence and all it stands for is brought into a story in a way to show how impossible or empty it would be for Our Heroes, but some people are incapable of enjoying irony.

There are times when I enjoy schmoop for schmoop's sake (is the term WAFF known in these parts?) in much the same way I might enjoy downing a pint of Ben and Jerry's when the hormones are a hopping. That said, certain fandoms support schmoop better than others. Due South can support schmoopy, happy fics much better than, say, Hard Core Logo.


Susan W. - Feb 19, 2003 1:16:10 pm PST #3661 of 10000
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

WAFF as in Warm And Fuzzy Feelings? That really takes me back to my old FoLC (Fan of Lois & Clark) days.


P.M. Marc - Feb 19, 2003 1:16:53 pm PST #3662 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

There seems to be a whole sub-genre of fanfic stories in a lot of fandoms where, for example, John and Aeryn or Buffy and Spike fall in love, get married, have kids, and live happily ever after -- all without acknowledging the inherent risk of having children when you're a hero.

Hee!

And therein we have pretty much the WHOLE motivation behind writing Absolution.

Which I still like best of all my stupid stories.


askye - Feb 19, 2003 1:17:06 pm PST #3663 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

Shmoop in Hard Core Logo is just wrong.


Connie Neil - Feb 19, 2003 1:17:17 pm PST #3664 of 10000
brillig

It's more than just hiring a nanny

Though it helps when your nanny is a hacker and has a Valkyrie girlfriend.

t /Iolokus references


shrift - Feb 19, 2003 1:18:28 pm PST #3665 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

*coughNIKITAcough*

Bwahahahahaha! I'm almost tempted to pull together a list of all the improbable happily ever after stories over the years, but, um, that would require much pain and suffering on my part.

Though occasionally that cliche is done well. The first that springs to mind is With Six You Get Eggroll, in due South.

There are exceptions to the rule, except, like we've been explaining, Speranza's story isn't quite the happily ever after cliché -- because it's done realistically. My buddy grit kitty write a Jim-and-Blair-with-kid story called Another Mode of Belonging that addressed the difficulties of parenthood.

It can be done, and done well. It's just not usually done well. t g


Anne W. - Feb 19, 2003 1:19:36 pm PST #3666 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

WAFF as in Warm And Fuzzy Feelings? That

Yup. Then, there's it's prickly cousin, "TAFF" (Twisted and Fuzzy Feelings).

Shmoop in Hard Core Logo is just wrong.

Amen. Conversely, I often feel that unremitting angst in Due South somehow messes big time with the whole reason I liked the show in the first place. There can be angst, but there should also be some (hope of) recovery, IMVHO.


Connie Neil - Feb 19, 2003 1:19:59 pm PST #3667 of 10000
brillig

I am glad that Iolokus wrapped up in a fairly conventional happy place. So much unrelenting badness for so long was doing a real number on my psyche. If it hadn't been so good I wouldn't have inflicted that much pain on myself.

Which I think is what all masochists tell themselves.


shrift - Feb 19, 2003 1:21:10 pm PST #3668 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

And therein we have pretty much the WHOLE motivation behind writing Absolution.

Turn the cliché on its head! Yes! I love stories that do that, and I'm glad you did it.

I mean, personally, I'm tempted to write a story where Lex and Clark somehow develop psychic bond-y powers, but without the OTT, OOC schmoopfest...


Fay - Feb 19, 2003 1:23:22 pm PST #3669 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I mean, personally, I'm tempted to write a story where Lex and Clark somehow develop psychic bond-y powers, but without the OTT, OOC schmoopfest...

Ooooh! Yes, do it! Doitdoitdoit!

t /irritating kid