Groo, bless his heart, didn't sing....
Right, there comes a point where you have to either move on, or just buy yourself a Klingon costume and go with it.
Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers
This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.
Theodosia - Feb 01, 2003 6:21:31 am PST #3247 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 01, 2003 6:42:26 am PST #3248 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty
Groo, bless his heart, didn't sing....
is struck down with plot bunny
no singing in Pylea- Lorne teaching Groo to sing? (in return, Groo gives Lorne a quick "how to dance like Numfar" lesson...) Groo/Lorne...
Yep, it's a "kill me now" case.
esse - Feb 01, 2003 10:35:16 am PST #3249 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
Fay, you should stick that up in your LJ.
Consuela - Feb 01, 2003 11:15:09 am PST #3250 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
I do miss Groo. Wonder what he's up to.
brenda m - Feb 01, 2003 11:57:49 am PST #3251 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
t copied from Angel since I lost track of where I was Another aspect to a Mary Sue that I don't think I've seen mentioned is the utter lack of character growth. Sure, maybe she learns that she really is beautiful, but with no flaws, there's no room or need to grow either.
It's funny how much more sensitive to this I've gotten since being immersed in fandom. I was rereading a book the other day that I've always really liked. Not great literature by any stretch but something I was fond of. I hadn't looked at it in a few years, but this time I couldn't get away from the extreme MarySueness of the female lead. I ended up basically skimming through all her scenes to get to the ones that featured other, more real characters. Kind of a bummer, actually. I don't know that I'll be picking that one up again.
P.M. Marc - Feb 01, 2003 12:09:24 pm PST #3252 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Brenda, that's ruined so many books for me. Like, almost all of the romance novels in the basement.
Rebecca Lizard - Feb 01, 2003 1:40:59 pm PST #3253 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket
Yes. Wrod, Fay.
Anne W. - Feb 01, 2003 1:52:26 pm PST #3254 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
that's ruined so many books for me.
I've had a hard time with many fantasy novels because of this one. I don't think I could read McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern series ever again, because so many of the characters seem like MarySues, even in retrospect. Then again, I didn't really read those books for the characters--I was far more interested in the dragons and the world that McCaffrey created.
Mary Sues are more annoying in fanfic, IMO, because the authors who use them tend to show a great deal of disrespect to the characters and stories that we love. In original fiction, having a Mary Sue as the lead character isn't as annoying, especially if other elements of the story are interesting.
esse - Feb 01, 2003 3:02:38 pm PST #3255 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
The popslash fandom is both scary and hilarious.
And google is a formidable tool.
Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 02, 2003 1:42:12 am PST #3256 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty
SA, I suspect I don't want to know what you found.
Although- I do have a kind of morbid curiosity.