Brenda, that's ruined so many books for me. Like, almost all of the romance novels in the basement.
...burning baby fish swimming all round your head.
Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers
This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.
P.M. Marc - Feb 01, 2003 12:09:24 pm PST #3252 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Rebecca Lizard - Feb 01, 2003 1:40:59 pm PST #3253 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket
Yes. Wrod, Fay.
Anne W. - Feb 01, 2003 1:52:26 pm PST #3254 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
that's ruined so many books for me.
I've had a hard time with many fantasy novels because of this one. I don't think I could read McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern series ever again, because so many of the characters seem like MarySues, even in retrospect. Then again, I didn't really read those books for the characters--I was far more interested in the dragons and the world that McCaffrey created.
Mary Sues are more annoying in fanfic, IMO, because the authors who use them tend to show a great deal of disrespect to the characters and stories that we love. In original fiction, having a Mary Sue as the lead character isn't as annoying, especially if other elements of the story are interesting.
esse - Feb 01, 2003 3:02:38 pm PST #3255 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
The popslash fandom is both scary and hilarious.
And google is a formidable tool.
Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 02, 2003 1:42:12 am PST #3256 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty
SA, I suspect I don't want to know what you found.
Although- I do have a kind of morbid curiosity.
Hobgobble - Feb 02, 2003 7:24:24 am PST #3257 of 10000
Tagline? What tagline?
- delurking*
It's funny how much more sensitive to this I've gotten since being immersed in fandom. I was rereading a book the other day that I've always really liked. Not great literature by any stretch but something I was fond of. I hadn't looked at it in a few years, but this time I couldn't get away from the extreme MarySueness of the female lead. I ended up basically skimming through all her scenes to get to the ones that featured other, more real characters. Kind of a bummer, actually. I don't know that I'll be picking that one up again.
Yeah, that happened to me with the Alanna books by Tamara Pierce. I loved the first one when I was 14, but when I went back and re-read them a few years back, all I could think was, "Good God! This chick is *perfect!*"
Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 02, 2003 7:29:53 am PST #3258 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty
that happened to me with the Alanna books by Tamara Pierce.
Also the series after that, with the next young girl who wants to become a knight, and the series about the bird-woman, and the other series with three Mary-Sues and a Marky-Sam in, and...
She's a good writer, don't get me wrong. But there are some cases of Mary-Sues there.
Theodosia - Feb 02, 2003 8:27:02 am PST #3259 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
I think it's more acceptable to write Mary-Sues for the young adult market, who as an audience tend to be able to get more whole-heartedly into a protagonist who is perfect. I mean, I'm speaking from my own experience as a young reader here. :-)
Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 02, 2003 8:37:36 am PST #3260 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty
it's more acceptable to write Mary-Sues for the young adult market
That is the case- although I'm not sure it's an attitude I like. I suspect it contributes to the number of Mary-Sues at ff.n and suchlike places.
Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 02, 2003 8:43:49 am PST #3261 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty