Do I wish I was somebody else right now. Somebody not... married, not madly in love with a beautiful woman who can kill me with her pinkie!

Wash ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Fay - Dec 30, 2002 9:54:11 am PST #2298 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

And, goodness, Fay, you should write your own novel, and sell it, and become terribly rich.

Yes. Yes, I absolutely concur. Now all I need is a plot....


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 30, 2002 9:55:22 am PST #2299 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Theodosia, is that in plain text or as a word document? I only ask because I spend nearly as much time trying to work out how long a novel length is as I actually do typing, and this kind of number might help me stop that.


Fay - Dec 30, 2002 9:58:13 am PST #2300 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Theodosia, is that in plain text or as a word document?

....I don't understand what difference it would make.

t /stupid


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 30, 2002 10:01:15 am PST #2301 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I don't understand what difference it would make.

Well, for some reason Word files are much larger than plain .txt ones: my Spike-Giles-sumt-free-gay-vampire epic is 505KB in plain text, but 783KB in a Word file.


§ ita § - Dec 30, 2002 10:02:26 am PST #2302 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Word adds lots of stuff -- versioning, formatting, user info -- whether or not it actually looks flashy onscreen. So the files will always be larger than a text file.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 30, 2002 10:03:51 am PST #2303 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

And ita knows why there's a difference. But this is why there's a question about it.


Rebecca Lizard - Dec 30, 2002 10:05:21 am PST #2304 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Not K as in file size kilobytes.

K as in thousands of words.

Only ficcers and other online writers count it by file size-- because it's only relevant to the Internet, because then you have to worry about how large the file is you're downloading. Wordcount is a fair universial standard in actual publishing.


Consuela - Dec 30, 2002 10:11:13 am PST #2305 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And a rough conversion: 100K of a .txt file is roughly (very roughly) 20,000 words, or so I found.


Theodosia - Dec 30, 2002 10:16:23 am PST #2306 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

There's a whole rigamarole for determining word-length for type-setting purposes that professional editors use, which you really want to observe if you're submitting a manuscript, but it boils down to raw character count (spaces included) divided by 5, so that if you have a double-spaced manuscript page in Courier 12 point with a certain amount of margin at top, bottom and sides it will average about 250 words per page.

So, a 45K novella t opens calculator function will work out to about 180 pages in manuscript, which is a nicely hefty chunk o' paper.

(Note: paper size is American standard letter, but not too surprisingly, I haven't learned standard manuscript preparation for English editors, though I understand that the English editors are rather more used to getting "funny-sized" manuscript pages from Americans.)

t looks at above Er, yes, I do work for an actual publishing company (though far away from Editorial) and take a lot of this stuff for granted....


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 30, 2002 10:21:53 am PST #2307 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Not K as in file size kilobytes. K as in thousands of words.

Sometimes I can be increadibly dense. Thanks, RL.

100K of a .txt file is roughly (very roughly) 20,000 words

Thanks.