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Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

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Fay - Dec 30, 2002 9:58:13 am PST #2300 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Theodosia, is that in plain text or as a word document?

....I don't understand what difference it would make.

t /stupid


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 30, 2002 10:01:15 am PST #2301 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I don't understand what difference it would make.

Well, for some reason Word files are much larger than plain .txt ones: my Spike-Giles-sumt-free-gay-vampire epic is 505KB in plain text, but 783KB in a Word file.


§ ita § - Dec 30, 2002 10:02:26 am PST #2302 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Word adds lots of stuff -- versioning, formatting, user info -- whether or not it actually looks flashy onscreen. So the files will always be larger than a text file.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 30, 2002 10:03:51 am PST #2303 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

And ita knows why there's a difference. But this is why there's a question about it.


Rebecca Lizard - Dec 30, 2002 10:05:21 am PST #2304 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Not K as in file size kilobytes.

K as in thousands of words.

Only ficcers and other online writers count it by file size-- because it's only relevant to the Internet, because then you have to worry about how large the file is you're downloading. Wordcount is a fair universial standard in actual publishing.


Consuela - Dec 30, 2002 10:11:13 am PST #2305 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And a rough conversion: 100K of a .txt file is roughly (very roughly) 20,000 words, or so I found.


Theodosia - Dec 30, 2002 10:16:23 am PST #2306 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

There's a whole rigamarole for determining word-length for type-setting purposes that professional editors use, which you really want to observe if you're submitting a manuscript, but it boils down to raw character count (spaces included) divided by 5, so that if you have a double-spaced manuscript page in Courier 12 point with a certain amount of margin at top, bottom and sides it will average about 250 words per page.

So, a 45K novella t opens calculator function will work out to about 180 pages in manuscript, which is a nicely hefty chunk o' paper.

(Note: paper size is American standard letter, but not too surprisingly, I haven't learned standard manuscript preparation for English editors, though I understand that the English editors are rather more used to getting "funny-sized" manuscript pages from Americans.)

t looks at above Er, yes, I do work for an actual publishing company (though far away from Editorial) and take a lot of this stuff for granted....


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 30, 2002 10:21:53 am PST #2307 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Not K as in file size kilobytes. K as in thousands of words.

Sometimes I can be increadibly dense. Thanks, RL.

100K of a .txt file is roughly (very roughly) 20,000 words

Thanks.


Nutty - Dec 30, 2002 12:26:50 pm PST #2308 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

So... I'm the only one who, when I was 14, typed one entire page of a favorite novel into a computer to find out how much of a standardly-formatted 8.5 x 11 page it took up?

Just me, then. Never mind; move along. (It was about 2/3 of the page, at 1.5 spacing. Double-spacing drives me wild from a miserly standpoint, although I know from experience it's impossible to copyedit anything denser.)


Anne W. - Dec 30, 2002 12:32:02 pm PST #2309 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I'm trying to think how many standard novel pages 156,000 words would be. Not that I have any personal reason for knowing, or anything t /lie .