I like books. I just don't want to take on too much. Do they have an introduction to the modern blurb?

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

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Theodosia - Dec 22, 2002 3:20:02 pm PST #1867 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

So here is my (rough) continuum map:

National Enquirer --> Puppy Slash --> RPS --> RPF --> Alternative Speculation (live people) --> Alternative Speculation (safely dead people) --> Historical Fiction --> Biography

I'm not chiseling these into tablets of stone, I'm just trying to work out for myself where I stand on this. I have committed RPS, even though it was long ago in a different country and besides the wench is dead.


Theodosia - Dec 22, 2002 3:31:17 pm PST #1868 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

ita, to me historical fiction is merely a subset of alternative history, because if you depict even a small event that is not in the verifiable historical record, you are imagining. So there is 'fairly strict' alternative history where the writer weaves in as much historical detail as they can manage and speculates what was going on in the heads of the protagonists and then way further out on the continuum there is the wild ass alternative speculation where Teddy Roosevelt ends up fighting H.G. Wells' Martians or Gandhi tries to use pacifism against the Nazi German occupation of India.


Fay - Dec 22, 2002 3:52:37 pm PST #1869 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I'm amusing myself by contemplating Viggo's neighbors in New Zealand chatting to each other about that nice young man down the hall who carries a sword around.

I think I'm pretty much with Connie.


Connie Neil - Dec 22, 2002 4:04:52 pm PST #1870 of 10000
brillig

And chatting about him and his buddies going out on weekends and giggling and getting drunk and tattoos.

Ian McKellan giggling. I may have just broken myself.


Fay - Dec 22, 2002 4:06:19 pm PST #1871 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Oh, Sir Ian does giggle. God, I adore Sir Ian. Such a sweetheart. Bless him. I'm his bitch.

I've been awash with Sir Ian love ever since he was on Blankety Blank. It was one of the cutest things I've ever seen.


Connie Neil - Dec 22, 2002 4:15:45 pm PST #1872 of 10000
brillig

That's not helping.


Fay - Dec 22, 2002 4:24:50 pm PST #1873 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Really, I think that the Sir Ian love is a good and healthy thing. He's adorable. Bless him. Look! Here he is playing with a Magneto doll. How cute is that? Bless. And then there's the Grey Book , which is also cuteness on a stick.

Before we got there, a Gandalf lookalike was on parade. I wish I’d met him. By comparison, I was a wizard in mufti, my new brown tweed suit by John Varvatos, my hair dressed with cold cream that I had mistaken for gel in my home bathroom.

He's just unbelievably endearing, isn't he? Bless. I think I'd probably find Sir Ian RPF disturbing, because I believe that he's real. Whereas the other folks, I don't have so much of a sense of as real people, so it's easier to just take the fiction as fiction. Or something.

t / complete hypocrite with the ethics of an alley cat but gallons of affection for Sir Ian McKellern


Connie Neil - Dec 22, 2002 4:37:45 pm PST #1874 of 10000
brillig

complete hypocrite with the ethics of an alley cat but gallons of affection for Sir Ian McKellern

Yet another entry into the endless book of "Why I Love Fay"


Fay - Dec 22, 2002 5:29:36 pm PST #1875 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

t Captain Tangent!

Yo, All-knowing queens of Ficcish Crack - is there Fight Club fic out there? Because I was watching it again this evening, and it struck me that there really should be some nice meta-ish fic out there. Slash would be obvious, but even not slash would be fine.

t / Captain Tangent!


Elena - Dec 22, 2002 5:34:21 pm PST #1876 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.

This is a very interesting coversation.

It's funny, because I want to read everything I can get my hands on about the behind the scenes of LOTR - the fact that they (cast and crew) seem to love the movie so much enhances things for me. So why not imagine scenarios? Why not write them and read them? Huh....

I think, for me, it crosses too close to those people who confuse the actor with the character; who think that the show stops if they don't watch it. Who pelt a soap-opera vixen with insults for breaking up a 'marriage'.

It's somehow... ... Just too much wish fulfilment. It's too much control over real people. And historical fiction doesn't bother me as much, because I frequently don't think of them as real people. Still, that biography of JFK where the writer wrote imaginary conversations and thoughts for JFK struck me as totally wrong, because it was presented in the context of non-fiction. And, oddly, there are some real historical events and people that I think are diminished by fictional accounts. Argh, this is making my brain hurt.

Okay, so RPF is fiction - it says so right in the title... It doesn't interest me in the way that a true story might.