Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think it was bad; it might have been Latin.

'Selfless'


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DavidS - Jun 19, 2007 12:32:49 pm PDT #9280 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The narration noted that these megaflocks can take up to six hours to pass.

Passenger pigeon flocks would sometimes take two days (I think) to pass over.

Now they're all gone.


Sean K - Jun 19, 2007 12:49:51 pm PDT #9281 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Heh. Now that you mention it, I may be understating the narration in my memory. These flocks were huge. Their motion was fascinating to watch.

And yeah, it made me think of the passenger pigeon.


DavidS - Jun 19, 2007 12:52:13 pm PDT #9282 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

According to wikipedia:

It is estimated that there were as many as five billion passenger pigeons in the United States at the time Europeans arrived in North America[1]. They lived in enormous flocks, and during migration, one could see flocks of them a mile (1.6 km) wide and 300 miles (500 km) long, taking several days to pass and probably containing two billion birds.[2][3] Over the 19th century, the species went from being one of the most abundant birds in the world to extinction.[4]


Polter-Cow - Jun 19, 2007 12:52:23 pm PDT #9283 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

P-C, have you seen any of the footage from the Planet Earth miniseries showing megaflocks of millions of birds moving across the African plain? The narration noted that these megaflocks can take up to six hours to pass.

I haven't seen that. Ooooh. So many birds.


DavidS - Jun 19, 2007 12:55:10 pm PDT #9284 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ayiyi, this is fucked up:

A particularly cruel method of killing was to blind a single bird by sewing its eyes shut using a needle and thread. This bird's feet would be attached to a circular stool at the end of a stick that could be raised five or six feet in the air, then dropped back to the ground. As the bird attempted to land, it would flutter its wings, thus attracting attention to other birds flying overhead. When the flock would land near this decoy bird, nets would trap the birds and the hunters would crush their heads between their thumb and forefinger. This was the origin of the term stool pigeon. [8]

I don't get why you need to sew the bird's eyes shut.


Nutty - Jun 19, 2007 1:01:39 pm PDT #9285 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Over the 19th century, the species went from being one of the most abundant birds in the world to extinction.

This is what happens when you have no natural predators. Now aren't you glad for that Samuel L. Jackson movie where he selflessly demonstrates that sharks are our natural predators??

I really liked Vertigo, because it was so freaky-bright and because of the Vertigo Camera Move (tm). I am personally of the opinion that you're not allowed to use that camera move unless you are working in an expressionistic or otherwise oneiric text, because "Scared the shit out of Frodo on the way to Bree" is not dramatic enough a justification for that camera move.


bon bon - Jun 19, 2007 1:06:04 pm PDT #9286 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It's so standard these days, though. I didn't even notice it was used in it until I, uh, was listening to the commentary on the Reno 911 movie this weekend.


Polter-Cow - Jun 19, 2007 1:07:09 pm PDT #9287 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

How about "Totally figured out who killed a bunch of kids on a bus AND raped you a couple years ago"?


Sean K - Jun 19, 2007 1:10:16 pm PDT #9288 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Made in Paris just came on the TV. TCM, I think. I just watched the brilliant, seven minute, dialogless opening sequence with Ann-Margret and Chad Everett. Magnificent.

Also? Young Ann-Margret?

I'll be in my bunk.


§ ita § - Jun 19, 2007 1:12:25 pm PDT #9289 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sharks would be our natural predators if we were living in the ocean. Under "natural" circumstances one is extremely safe from attacks.

Now, I can see how humans got to apex predator status. After all, we kill stuff all the time.

Pigeons? How do they end up with no one eating them? They're not quite predating themselves, are they?