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'Never Leave Me'


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§ ita § - Jan 24, 2007 8:53:12 am PST #7160 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He's often a bit of a mumblemouth, though.


Nutty - Jan 24, 2007 8:54:07 am PST #7161 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Benicio Del Toro is from, like, Pennsylvania. His mushmouth is pure personality.

I don't actually sit there completely lost as to what's going on, but I mishear words on TV all the time -- a T that might be a D, or G/K, or a couple other consonant switches -- that can change meanings. I get jerked out of the story, when I find myself relying on context to understand meaning rather than relying on hearing the word right the first time. I find most Texas accents mildly mushy, e.g., and the vowel-confusion of anybody from Chicago will usually get me asking, "Wait, what?"


Ailleann - Jan 24, 2007 8:57:05 am PST #7162 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Have you just been watching him in Usual Suspects?

That was the first movie I thought of, but I also had some issues with Sin City.


Laga - Jan 24, 2007 8:57:36 am PST #7163 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

And Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas


DavidS - Jan 24, 2007 8:58:53 am PST #7164 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That was the first movie I thought of, but I also had some issues with Sin City.

Maybe it was because he was decapitated.

And Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

Maybe it was because he was on drugs.


lisah - Jan 24, 2007 8:59:54 am PST #7165 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Benicio Del Toro is from, like, Pennsylvania.

I thought he was from Puerto Rico but went to boarding school in PA?

I've taken to watching most things on TV with subtitles on. But I blame not understanding what's being said to my decling ability to hear. darn rock and roll.


§ ita § - Jan 24, 2007 9:00:04 am PST #7166 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

BDT is from Puerto Rico. He went to school in Pennsylvania at 13. I have no idea what his "real" accent is like, but I know plenty of people who retained childhood accents through a switch like that.

I'm patently not one of them. But I have extenuating circumstances, I swear.

Nutty, I'm surprised at your comprehension problems. Unless there's a dip in volume or something I hold against the audio quality of the show I'm pretty much good to go. Maybe you need a new TV.


Kathy A - Jan 24, 2007 9:19:10 am PST #7167 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

vowel-confusion of anybody from Chicago

I'm finally understanding the "Chicago accent," or at least, how it is different from "standard American." I always thought I spoke "standard," but after hearing myself say things like "Kee-athy" for "Kathy," and "sass-age" for "sauce-age," I'm finally seeing why we sound different. It's all part of that Northern Cities Vowel Shift that I didn't even know about until I saw "Do You Speak American?" on PBS last year.


Nutty - Jan 24, 2007 9:26:57 am PST #7168 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Like I said, it's not that I can't understand what's being said; it's that it takes me longer to sift through the candidates of what's being said, and that reduces my involvement with the story. I keep noticing the words, and not the content thereof.

There are generally-accepted mushes, that have become seamless through repetition, like omina, as in Omina go to the store. Do we need milk? But other mushes, that aren't instantly familiar, require extra brainpower I could be spending on the story.


§ ita § - Jan 24, 2007 9:31:14 am PST #7169 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm just surprised because I've never noticed anything like that in my consumption of accents that are not my own. Which is really all of them. However, if a well-placed accent confuses my ear any, it's not likely to throw me out of the story unless I have zero comprehension and miss the word entirely. In fact, it's likely to draw me deeper in.