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§ ita § - Jan 24, 2007 9:00:04 am PST #7166 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

BDT is from Puerto Rico. He went to school in Pennsylvania at 13. I have no idea what his "real" accent is like, but I know plenty of people who retained childhood accents through a switch like that.

I'm patently not one of them. But I have extenuating circumstances, I swear.

Nutty, I'm surprised at your comprehension problems. Unless there's a dip in volume or something I hold against the audio quality of the show I'm pretty much good to go. Maybe you need a new TV.


Kathy A - Jan 24, 2007 9:19:10 am PST #7167 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

vowel-confusion of anybody from Chicago

I'm finally understanding the "Chicago accent," or at least, how it is different from "standard American." I always thought I spoke "standard," but after hearing myself say things like "Kee-athy" for "Kathy," and "sass-age" for "sauce-age," I'm finally seeing why we sound different. It's all part of that Northern Cities Vowel Shift that I didn't even know about until I saw "Do You Speak American?" on PBS last year.


Nutty - Jan 24, 2007 9:26:57 am PST #7168 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Like I said, it's not that I can't understand what's being said; it's that it takes me longer to sift through the candidates of what's being said, and that reduces my involvement with the story. I keep noticing the words, and not the content thereof.

There are generally-accepted mushes, that have become seamless through repetition, like omina, as in Omina go to the store. Do we need milk? But other mushes, that aren't instantly familiar, require extra brainpower I could be spending on the story.


§ ita § - Jan 24, 2007 9:31:14 am PST #7169 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm just surprised because I've never noticed anything like that in my consumption of accents that are not my own. Which is really all of them. However, if a well-placed accent confuses my ear any, it's not likely to throw me out of the story unless I have zero comprehension and miss the word entirely. In fact, it's likely to draw me deeper in.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 24, 2007 9:33:24 am PST #7170 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

There are generally-accepted mushes, that have become seamless through repetition, like omina, as in Omina go to the store. Do we need milk? But other mushes, that aren't instantly familiar, require extra brainpower I could be spending on the story.

I have this problem not so much with diction as with sentance structure. I realize most people understand, in speaking and listening, misplaced modifiers, but I actually spend an extra few seconds puzzling as to what the heck the person means.


DavidS - Jan 24, 2007 9:41:27 am PST #7171 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I have this problem not so much with diction as with sentance structure. I realize most people understand, in speaking and listening, misplaced modifiers, but I actually spend an extra few seconds puzzling as to what the heck the person means.

I have the opposite problem in that I elide over the actual words as soon as I grasp the content of what's being said and tend to mentally hop around from foot to foot in my mind waiting to speak. Which means, that I don't listen closely enough sometimes and can miss nuance. Though I generally I have a very high rate of gist-getting.

This has turned out to be problematic talking with JZ as she's all about the extended narrative riff, with curlicues and metaphors and her word balloons can fill all the extant space between her mouth and the ceiling.

Also, she's immune to visual cues that I got it already which causes my brain to Irish jig at an even more frantic pace.


Laga - Jan 24, 2007 10:07:41 am PST #7172 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Does "A Regular Guy" still do movie reviews on WXRT? That's the classic Chicago accent.


Jesse - Jan 24, 2007 10:11:26 am PST #7173 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm going to take a stand and say that "midwest" is not the "standard" American accent. Or at least, the Great Lakes type accent sure isn't!

I have no idea what his "real" accent is like, but I know plenty of people who retained childhood accents through a switch like that.

That reminds me of a thing from The Departed that really resonated with me, when Leo gets asked if he had two different accents growing up, because I totally did.


Kathy A - Jan 24, 2007 10:16:51 am PST #7174 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Well, the Regular Guy (I'm not too sure if he's still on XRT, Laga--it's been a long time since I listened to that station regularly) is an exaggerated version of the Classic Chicago Accent, like the "Da Bears" guys were on SNL. There's a good example of the more typical Chicago accent here (mp3 clip).


bon bon - Jan 24, 2007 10:27:06 am PST #7175 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm going to take a stand and say that "midwest" is not the "standard" American accent. Or at least, the Great Lakes type accent sure isn't!

Yeah, I've heard accents in Iowa, Michigan and Kansas City.