We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so very pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die.

Mal ,'Serenity'


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DavidS - Jan 06, 2007 9:33:45 pm PST #6849 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think a lot of people would like to see that happen.

::raises hand::

Depending on how the new guy does with Order of the Phoenix.

He ain't gonna be better than Cuaron. No freakin' way.


§ ita § - Jan 06, 2007 10:18:08 pm PST #6850 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's like Dances With Wolves but with Vikings!

How sweet is that?


Laga - Jan 06, 2007 10:20:29 pm PST #6851 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I wasn't happy with Cuaron's werewolf but other than that it's my favorite HP flick. And Y Tu Mama Tambien is one of my all time favorites, cheesy voice over & all.


Zenkitty - Jan 06, 2007 10:54:24 pm PST #6852 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I couldn't get through Angels and Demons. Gave up on the whole franchise.

Lost in Translation left me wondering when the movie was going to start.

Virgin Suicides meant something to me. I don't think I could watch it again.

I loved Hair until the end. Hated the pointless death.

I have Dog Soldiers on the shelf but never watched it. Maybe I will, now I know who did it.

I adore The (original) Wicker Man. I saw the long version, but the one I have on tape is, unfortunately, the short version. Is the long version running about anywhere?

I like that the policeman was so out of touch with nature that he was a 40-year-old virgin, and yet he was the sympathetic character.
I didn't find him at all sympathetic.

It's like Dances With Wolves but with Vikings!

Don't see how Pathfinder is like Dances with Wolves. Except maybe that everyone I like dies? Pathfinder is doing a good job showing how fucking scary the Vikings were, though. To the people they stomped on, they looked like devils, and acted like them too. I'll probably see that one curled up on the couch with a drink and a stuffed animal, waiting for an awful ending. I'm delicate.


§ ita § - Jan 06, 2007 11:01:58 pm PST #6853 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If you boil Dances With Wolves down to "white man lives with Native Americans, comes to their defense when his people attack them later" you can map Pathfinder onto it pretty simply.

The IMDB trivia page points out that Vikings didn't wear the horned helmets in the movies--did the Thirteenth Warrior Vikings have more realistic garb? I thought they were scary enough too, although we got to see their side of the story as well.


Laga - Jan 06, 2007 11:06:05 pm PST #6854 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I thought the pointless death was the point of (Milos Forman's version of) HAIR. (whitefonted) Because Burger was the ruler of his universe but death was the only thing he had no power over. Remember Claude's Dad's advice at the very beginning? "It's just those smart people gotta worry. The good lord's gonna take care of the ignorant ones." And the lord did take care of Claude.


Zenkitty - Jan 06, 2007 11:07:46 pm PST #6855 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

True. But Costner's character wasn't raised by Indians. Which is what I was focusing on, I guess.

I really liked 13th Warrior, but I don't remember how the Vikings were costumed. I don't think they had the horned helmets. I recall it all being fairly realistic, except for the part where Banderas' character makes a scimitar out of a broadsword by grinding it down into a curve. Argh. That scene was hard to forgive.

eta - oh, I knew the pointless death was the point, I just hate sacrificial, otherwise pointless deaths.


Laga - Jan 06, 2007 11:10:36 pm PST #6856 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I just hate sacrificial, otherwise pointless deaths.

How did you feel about Thelma & Louise?


Zenkitty - Jan 06, 2007 11:21:18 pm PST #6857 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Differently. That's helpful, isn't it? Um. I was sad that they died. I was cheering for the way they chose it. What's the difference...? thinking I think it's that T&L died for themselves, to free themselves. They were powerful; they weren't sacrificial lambs, helpless in someone else's hands. They didn't have to die, but they chose to, rather than take the only other choice offered. Someone else might have said, I surrendered because they gave me no choice but there is a choice; it's just a choice most of us won't make. Surrendering at that point, after they'd finally taken their freedom, would have negated everything they'd done to make themselves powerful.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 07, 2007 5:24:40 am PST #6858 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I adore The (original) Wicker Man. I saw the long version, but the one I have on tape is, unfortunately, the short version. Is the long version running about anywhere?

Anchor Bay has a double-dvd set with both versions. I think it may be out of print (or just came back into print). Nice packaging: a wooden box with scorch marks on it (I think the writing on the box is burnt into it as well). I picked up the shorter one because it was significantly cheaper.