Yes. Men like sports. Men watch the action movie, they eat of the beef, and enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs and that's all you've learned?

Xander ,'End of Days'


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Amy - Jan 03, 2007 11:23:21 am PST #6803 of 10001
Because books.

I think that might be it. I think it may be hard for me to get into stories with internal conflict, maybe.

I don't think so, P-C. Look at Veronica Mars. A lot of Veronica's conflicts are internal. And think of Lorrie Moore's fiction -- there's often very little in the way of action or external conflict, and much more ruminating and thinkiness.


Polter-Cow - Jan 03, 2007 11:29:56 am PST #6804 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

A lot of Veronica's conflicts are internal.

Yeah, but there's also a lot of external shit to keep me occupied otherwise. Besides the mysteries, a lot of her internal conflicts are manifested in her actions.

And think of Lorrie Moore's fiction -- there's often very little in the way of action or external conflict, and much more ruminating and thinkiness.

Yeah, her stories are all internal, but they're also made up of her words, which are lovely.

Movies are so short. I guess I feel dumb for not "appreciating" the subtle character pieces like You Can Count on Me and...I think I actually did like Sideways, for the most part, at least. I keep trying, though. Would I like Little Miss Sunshine ? Or The Departed ? Or Pan's Labyrinth ? I don't know anymore! Damn you, Alfonso CuarĂ³n, you're making me have another crisis of art.

At least Dexter was just as awesome as I had been led to believe.


Dana - Jan 03, 2007 11:33:06 am PST #6805 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

The Departed is not subtle. Trust me on that.


Polter-Cow - Jan 03, 2007 11:57:56 am PST #6806 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Woo! Down with subtlety! Up with extremity!


DavidS - Jan 03, 2007 12:00:14 pm PST #6807 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Woo! Down with subtlety! Up with extremity!

How about subtle extremities? Perhaps a squid's tentacle that tapers to an end so thin that it's practically evanescent. Huh? How about that?


Polter-Cow - Jan 03, 2007 12:01:24 pm PST #6808 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That's probably in an anime somewhere.


Ailleann - Jan 03, 2007 12:04:16 pm PST #6809 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

That's probably in an anime somewhere.

And it's probably doing something naughty.

Aaaand I think I just squicked myself.

t /I'm even nattering, good lord


Polter-Cow - Jan 03, 2007 12:05:49 pm PST #6810 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

And it's probably doing something naughty.

Well, that was understood.


Strega - Jan 03, 2007 12:05:53 pm PST #6811 of 10001

What about Remains of the Day? I know you didn't like the movie as much as the book, but even so.

The only movie mentioned here that I've seen is The Virgin Suicides, and... it was fine. I did not love it, I did not hate it. I did not feel like I'd wasted my time in seeing it, but I doubt I will ever watch it again. I think if I had to pin it down, I'd say that the movie didn't mean anything to me. However, I suspect that it did mean something to the people who like it. The meaning may be different to every single of them, but it means something.


Polter-Cow - Jan 03, 2007 12:07:48 pm PST #6812 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

What about Remains of the Day? I know you didn't like the movie as much as the book, but even so.

Hm. I think that has both non-linear narrative and Things Happening going for it. And I also could see the change in Stevens by the end. Fucking doves.