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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


§ ita § - Feb 26, 2006 5:39:14 pm PST #667 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Heretic!

Just kidding.

What did you think was scattershot about it? I thought it quite tight, so I'd appreciate the perspective.


Mr. Broom - Feb 26, 2006 6:03:37 pm PST #668 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

As someone who was impressed with both the scope and attention to detail in both V and The Watchmen, I'm likewise interested in a contrary opinion. I can't drum up really good conversation about them, despite wanting to, because all my friends who've read them agree with me, which is no fun.


Polter-Cow - Feb 26, 2006 6:09:07 pm PST #669 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

There's no "The" in Watchmen, fool.


§ ita § - Feb 26, 2006 6:13:04 pm PST #670 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There's no "The" in Watchmen, fool.

There totally is. Watchmen. See?


Strega - Feb 26, 2006 7:06:48 pm PST #671 of 10001

Jessica, re your whitefont, now I'm making an "O" face. That sounds...neat.

The main problem I'm having with the ads now is that V is presented like a superhero with the swishy knives. Is this mostly an ad thing? Because that's fine. I keep trying to believe it is just an ad thing. I guess... I want him to be creepy. He should be creepy.


DebetEsse - Feb 26, 2006 7:14:15 pm PST #672 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I'm hoping for an ad thing, as well, because the man was stealth-lethal-dude, but, yeah, not what he's about. The "Matrix" pedigree worries me a little, but I'll be seeing it, having heard that it doesn't suck.


§ ita § - Feb 26, 2006 7:15:18 pm PST #673 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If they stay true to the terrorism angle, I think he'll be creepy too.

I keep seeing trailers for Inside Man. But it wasn't until the last time I noticed it was a Spike Lee movie. Interesting. I like the leads. Plus, Chiwetel Ejiofor.


Sean K - Feb 26, 2006 9:37:02 pm PST #674 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

lisah:

I just read V for Vendetta and was kind of underwhelmed by it. I liked the ideas but I thought the plot was a little scattershot. I kept thinking that it might actually work better as a movie.

broom:

As someone who was impressed with both the scope and attention to detail in both V

I was slightly underwhelmed by V when I read it, but possibly for reasons slightly different than lisah. I felt that it felt like early work of an author I loved, who hadn't quite mastered his form yet, but made a good show. Like lisa, the plot felt a little.... off to me, but that may be attributable, at least in my case, to Moore pausing in between writing the bulk of it and finishing it up. At least, I had been led to believe there was a pause of some time in the middle of the original run.

Though I agree with broom that there was the typical Moore scope and attention to detail, it didn't feel as tight to me as Watchmen had.


Fay - Feb 27, 2006 12:15:45 am PST #675 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Hey, Evan's Jamaican!

Nods.

I know. This makes him that much more lickable. Why isn't he in millions of films? Because, hotness aside, he was just splendid.

In other West Indies-related news, I have only just realised that the Dominican Republic is located on the Island of Hispaniola.

This is the coolest thing ever. I'm applying for a job there. And really, really hoping for pirates.


Jessica - Feb 27, 2006 4:45:28 am PST #676 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The main problem I'm having with the ads now is that V is presented like a superhero with the swishy knives. Is this mostly an ad thing?

Yeah, it's mostly an ad thing. I mean, there are a few swishy knife scenes, but it's actually a pretty talky film. And he's definitely not a superhero.

I felt that it felt like early work of an author I loved, who hadn't quite mastered his form yet, but made a good show.

Yes, this. At least the first third reads like a really promising good try from someone who had never met any women, ever. t /Evey issues

At least, I had been led to believe there was a pause of some time in the middle of the original run.

I don't know how much of a break he took in between books, but my understanding is it was written over several years. By book 3, he'd learned to write.