Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell
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Jessica, re your whitefont, now I'm making an "O" face. That sounds...neat.
The main problem I'm having with the ads now is that V is presented like a superhero with the swishy knives. Is this mostly an ad thing? Because that's fine. I keep trying to believe it is just an ad thing. I guess... I want him to be creepy. He should be creepy.
I'm hoping for an ad thing, as well, because the man was stealth-lethal-dude, but, yeah, not what he's about. The "Matrix" pedigree worries me a little, but I'll be seeing it, having heard that it doesn't suck.
If they stay true to the terrorism angle, I think he'll be creepy too.
I keep seeing trailers for
Inside Man.
But it wasn't until the last time I noticed it was a Spike Lee movie. Interesting. I like the leads. Plus, Chiwetel Ejiofor.
lisah:
I just read V for Vendetta and was kind of underwhelmed by it. I liked the ideas but I thought the plot was a little scattershot. I kept thinking that it might actually work better as a movie.
broom:
As someone who was impressed with both the scope and attention to detail in both V
I was slightly underwhelmed by V when I read it, but possibly for reasons slightly different than lisah. I felt that it felt like early work of an author I loved, who hadn't quite mastered his form yet, but made a good show. Like lisa, the plot felt a little....
off
to me, but that may be attributable, at least in my case, to Moore pausing in between writing the bulk of it and finishing it up. At least, I had been led to believe there was a pause of some time in the middle of the original run.
Though I agree with broom that there was the typical Moore scope and attention to detail, it didn't feel as tight to me as Watchmen had.
Hey, Evan's Jamaican!
Nods.
I know. This makes him that much more lickable. Why isn't he in millions of films? Because, hotness aside, he was just splendid.
In other West Indies-related news, I have only just realised that the Dominican Republic is located
on the Island of Hispaniola.
This is the coolest thing ever. I'm applying for a job there. And really, really hoping for pirates.
The main problem I'm having with the ads now is that V is presented like a superhero with the swishy knives. Is this mostly an ad thing?
Yeah, it's mostly an ad thing. I mean, there are a few swishy knife scenes, but it's actually a pretty talky film. And he's definitely not a superhero.
I felt that it felt like early work of an author I loved, who hadn't quite mastered his form yet, but made a good show.
Yes, this. At least the first third reads like a really promising good try from someone who had never met any women, ever.
t /Evey issues
At least, I had been led to believe there was a pause of some time in the middle of the original run.
I don't know how much of a break he took in between books, but my understanding is it was written over several years. By book 3, he'd learned to write.
I think he took something like 7-8 years in the middle there.
it felt like early work of an author I loved, who hadn't quite mastered his form yet, but made a good show. Like lisa, the plot felt a little.... off to me, but that may be attributable, at least in my case, to Moore pausing in between writing the bulk of it and finishing it up
Man, I agree. What's neat is that the version in my memory always smooths out the rough edges and turns it in to a scalpel-sharp short story, but when I re-read it, I remember how lumpy and unfocused major part of it are.
V ran in Warrior from 1982 to 1985. Warrior went out of business when they were near the end of book 2. Then DC published the whole thing in 10 issues in 1988.
I liked V much more than Watchmen. They both have problems, but V at least feels alive. Watchmen is like a Rube Goldberg device.
Just three years between the first part and last part? Wow. He got better fast.
What did you think was scattershot about it? I thought it quite tight, so I'd appreciate the perspective.
I never understood why V picked Evey to come be his acolyte or whatever she was suppposed to be. It seemed like that would be explained and it never was.
And it's possible I may not have been paying enough attention but the whole thing about the government watching everybody all the time seemed to pop up out of nowhere halfway through.
I guess I was like Evey whining at V about how she didn't understand what was happening. And suddenly she understands but I never did.
I'm reading Watchmen now. I read it before but years ago and I don't really remember what happens. It's entertaining but mostly I just think the women are drawn strangely. Maybe it's just the bad 80s high pants or something.