Will you report back whether the concept is as unbelieveably insulting as it sounds?
This is a take I was previously unaware of. What's insulting about the concept?
We can come by between classes. Usually I use that time to copy over my class notes with a system of different colored pens. But it's been pointed out to me that that's, you know...insane.
Willow ,'Showtime'
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Sean K - Dec 21, 2006 11:14:59 am PST #6569 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
erikaj - Dec 21, 2006 11:16:18 am PST #6570 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
JZ, not to worry...if I really thought you'd do that, I'd devote my next visit to SF to teaching Matilda "eyefuck" or something. Of course then she might be a Tarentino, and everyone wins.
Nutty - Dec 21, 2006 11:22:06 am PST #6571 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
What's insulting about the concept?
There are gossip rumblings I've read about the last pregnant woman on earth being sub-Saharan African, and how (being both black and female) the movie treats her as pawn-material, an object, a belly with no brains, rather than a subject and a character in her own right. I've only seen the trailer, so I don't know whether to take that with a grain of salt, or to get mad in advance.
Amy - Dec 21, 2006 11:24:40 am PST #6572 of 10001
Because books.
I don't remember that attitude from the book. But it's been a long time since I read it.
Jessica - Dec 21, 2006 11:33:50 am PST #6573 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Bah, I can't copy-paste on this thing. Anyway, that shot? Isn't even the best one in the film. there's another earlier on that's even more impressive.
AFAICT, most of the racism/sexism charges being thrown at this film are coming from people who have not seen it. Kee (the pregnant woman) is dependent on others for her safety because she's young and alone and people are trying to kill her, but she absolutely has agency in determining who is allowed to help her and in what manner. The people in the film trying to use her as a pawn are the *bad guys*.
Beverly - Dec 21, 2006 12:01:09 pm PST #6574 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
The best it to watch that Manchurian Candidate and then watch Bedknobs and Broomsticks. Makes for much surreal fun.
Especially when followed up with Pirates of Penzance.
Sean K - Dec 21, 2006 12:13:56 pm PST #6575 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Anyway, that shot? Isn't even the best one in the film. there's another earlier on that's even more impressive.
Need to see this movie now. The tale of the seven minute action shot, as told by Cuaron, is epic. I still haven't seen Y Tu Mama Tambien. I shall have to remedy that.
Jessica - Dec 21, 2006 1:02:46 pm PST #6576 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I still haven't seen Y Tu Mama Tambien. I shall have to remedy that.
There's a movie that improves vastly with the sound off. It's got Cuaron's visual style, but oy, that fucking voiceover.
(And speaking of women used as plot points instead of characters...yeah. Not that film's strong suit. Actually, I'm pretty sure the film's only strong suit is the scene where the boys make out, and even then it's only because Gael Garcia Bernal naked is never ever a bad thing.)
The tale of the seven minute action shot, as told by Cuaron, is epic.
I wonder if his Comic-Con panel from last year is online anywhere? He was interviewed by Guillermo del Toro, and it was one of the best panels of the weekend. He talked about getting that shot, and how they were literally down to their last squib on the last take of the last day.
Frankenbuddha - Dec 21, 2006 4:12:15 pm PST #6577 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
So we've got PAN'S LABYRINTH, CHILDREN OF MEN, and CURSE OF THE GOLDEN FLOWER this Xmas season (or near enough), plus I already got the most uncompromised David Lynch movie since ERASERHEAD?
Santa be giving the presents big time this winter.
Glamcookie - Dec 21, 2006 5:05:49 pm PST #6578 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
Gael Garcia Bernal naked
Ka-thunk!