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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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IAmNotReallyASpring - Dec 20, 2006 4:34:52 pm PST #6524 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

Huston was an atheist? And he adapted Wise Blood? But, but, but it's a trenchant criticism of atheism.

So, er, he was either oblivious to the book's meaning (which I could believe 'cause, as fond as I am of the film, it's faithful only to the plot) or he adapted it with the intention of inverting it and that aspect flew over my head entirely (which I could believe 'cause it's me).

I'm just going to hide under a big pile of coats and hopes this goes away.


Sean K - Dec 20, 2006 5:00:21 pm PST #6525 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

So, er, he was either oblivious to the book's meaning (which I could believe 'cause, as fond as I am of the film, it's faithful only to the plot) or he adapted it with the intention of inverting it and that aspect flew over my head entirely (which I could believe 'cause it's me).

A third possibility is that he deliberately adapted a story that advocated a position completely opposed to his own. Just because you believe a certain way doesn't mean you can't attempt to present a different viewpoint, and do it honestly, without inverting it to your own point of view.

It's good intellectual exercise, really.


Nutty - Dec 20, 2006 5:42:11 pm PST #6526 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Coincidentally to the list, I have The Parallax View out from Netflix. I just watched it, and can duly report that it's murky, abrupt, and completely ridiculous. I suspect deeply that it would have gotten a much more favorable review from people to whom Watergate was a life-changing event; it requires that you not have a skeptical bone in your body.

Also, wow have airline rules changed. Not only does some Evil Dude put a bomb into checked luggage without (a) it being inspected or (b) getting on the plane himself, but Our Hero just runs right on out to the tarmac, gets on the plane, and buys his one-way ticket from the stewardess. No kidding. In cash. After the airplane has taken off. She asks him his name, but not for ID.

Hello!!


IAmNotReallyASpring - Dec 20, 2006 5:52:21 pm PST #6527 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

Well, I didn't propose that because JZ's anecdote seemed to suggest that he didn't make it in good faith. Though, in saying that, I gave what JZ said a fairly ill reading and I shouldn't have suggested that Huston was either obtuse or subversive (in the ways I outlined) since he seemed to be only inconsistent.


JZ - Dec 20, 2006 6:11:23 pm PST #6528 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I think Huston's motive was what Sean said; he was very aware of the text and the author and what she was aiming at, and despite his fundamental disagreement with her he liked the story, the characters, the dry Southern snark of the whole thing, and he wanted to try that intellectual exercise. He just felt, looking back, that he'd had some baggage he hadn't been willing to acknowledge at the time, that got in the way between him and the text.


Kalshane - Dec 20, 2006 7:19:48 pm PST #6529 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Of the list, I've seen Millions, Save the Last Dance and Robin Hood. I enjoyed StLD, but I don't see how it could be called a classic, either.

Sadly, my uncultured heathen-hood has been confirmed by the fact I haven't even seen 90% of the movies that are used as a reference point for the items on the list.


Laga - Dec 20, 2006 7:25:25 pm PST #6530 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I notice The Beaver Trilogy is on the Lost Movie Classics list. I'd love to see it but it's not available on any format. I wonder how many other movies on that list are also unavailable.


Hayden - Dec 20, 2006 7:26:05 pm PST #6531 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I'm telling you, Two-Lane Blacktop is the way to go. James Taylor and Dennis Wilson are wooden as hell, and it's alright. Warren Oates is crazy as hell, and it's alright. It's a movie about car racing that hardly ever seems to move past cruising speed, almost as if the source material were a poem by Robert Creeley. It's has a Roger Corman budget, but Monte Hellman is behind the wheel, so it's smart and philosophical and quicksilver where a lesser director would have made lead.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 21, 2006 3:04:40 am PST #6532 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm curious about Let's Scare Jessica To Death. Anyone seen it? Good? Bad?

Very very creepy movie. Logic is not it's strong suit, but since the movie feels like a really bad nightmare (in that CARNIVAL OF SOULS kinda way), it really doesn't matter. You can tell it's totally no budget, and a couple of the actors aren't very good, but over all it's definitely worth a rent.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 21, 2006 3:15:30 am PST #6533 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Is that the one where the lead finds her husband drowned in the bathtub with his eyes rolled up into his head, and then later he's up out of the water zombie-shuffling towqard her? My dad traumatized me as a child during a movie with that scene in it.