Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


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Polter-Cow - Dec 20, 2006 5:53:44 am PST #6504 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Save the Last Dance ? Really? Heh.

I did like Beautiful Girls.


JZ - Dec 20, 2006 6:22:35 am PST #6505 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Save the Last Dance ? Really? Heh.

My reaction exactly. Interracial romance and all, it was still an incredibly...um...standard bit of movieness. Though it did contain Julia Stiles giving the most earnestly white, WASPy read ever to the line, "Oh, I would never pop a cap in your ass!" Which is the first and the last time I've ever loved Julia Stiles.

Just saw Narrow Margin on TMC (they did a terrific day-long series of films set on trains) and it was amazing.

When Hec gets to work and has a moment to pop in, he'll be very happy about the Fire Walk With Me love.


bon bon - Dec 20, 2006 6:29:53 am PST #6506 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I do remember Save the Last Dance being surprisingly watchable, and Sean Patrick Thomas being irresistable.


Polter-Cow - Dec 20, 2006 6:35:12 am PST #6507 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It was a good movie, yeah, but I wouldn't have considered it a "lost classic."


Hayden - Dec 20, 2006 6:42:38 am PST #6508 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Oddly enough, I just read about Cockfighter yesterday.

I love this movie, but I'm all into Warren Oates.

There's some great movies on that list. I love The Swimmer, Safe, Ride Lonesome (anything by Budd Boettischer, really, but this one is one of the best), Cockfighter (natch), Wise Blood, and Two-Lane Blacktop (which is just astonishing and recommended to everyone who loves existential car race movies starring pop stars). Had no idea that anyone had made a movie of Housekeeping, a book that I love despite the troubling disconnect between Robinson's musical prose and her dull protagonist. I think y'all are right that some of those movies must be more underground across the pond, because quite a few don't seem so lost to me.


erikaj - Dec 20, 2006 7:21:56 am PST #6509 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I like Save The Last Dance, but classic? Although I like Julia Stiles...she reminds me of myself if I could look elfin, that is.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2006 7:43:30 am PST #6510 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

erika, don't limit yourself to potatohead Stiles. Aim higher.


DavidS - Dec 20, 2006 7:47:29 am PST #6511 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Interesting list. My favs on there would be:

Petulia (mod San Francisco, Julie Christie at her most radiant)
I Wanna Hold Your Hand (I bet Scrappy likes this)
Ace in the Hole (Jan Sterling has two all-time great noir lines in this movie. Billy Wilder scripted, 'natch.)
Top Secret (I desperately want the "Skeet Surfing" song. Val's unreasonably charismatic in this. His perfect trilogy is Top Secret, Real Genius and Tombstone.)
3 Women (Altman does Bergman's Persona. Shelley Duvall and Sissy Spacek are both fantastic)
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (as JZ notes I'm a fan. And as usual Frank and I share a movie brain. Sheryl Lee's performance ought to be legendary.)
A New Leaf (I love this movie and hardly anybody ever sees it. A great, quirky character driven comedy. If you love Walter Matthau you should watch this. If you don't love Walter Matthau - ptooie!)
Dreamchild (supercreepy Henson puppets. Young Peter Gallagher. Old Coral Browne. Rheumy and tortured Ian Holm. Coral Browne (Vincent Price's wife) had one of the all-time great put-downs: "Don't talk to me about writing! He couldn't write 'Fuck' on a dusty venetian blind!")
Breathless (of course, I love the original best, but this is an excellent pop art rock and roll version. It's got the Silver Surfer and X! C'mon. Tarantino is a big fan of this as well.)
Cutter's Way (Excellent 70s post-Watergate noir. It's on cable a lot. Do check it out)
Narrow Margin (Just saw this on TCM last week. Very taut cheapy thriller, with our favorite noir ballbuster, Marie Windsor.)
Wise Blood (Brad Dourif's greatest role! Perfectly cast. Doesn't quite get all the way to the book, because as Huston himself lamented, he didn't have Flannery's faith. Shot on the cheap and looks it. Awesome cast though).
Robin Hood (the Disney version is the ur-text for Furries, incidentally)


Jessica - Dec 20, 2006 8:03:29 am PST #6512 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

DH's interview wtih Guillermo del Toro is up! It's a really good interview, too -- he got to sit down one-on-one in person (as opposed to the usual press junket round-table situation), and Guillermo del Toro is made of so much awesome you just can't believe it. I want to live inside his head.

My favorite quote:

"People tend to think of genre as a lower form [of filmmaking] and I really don't. I believe genre movies are pure cinema, even the bad ones. In the history of film, George Méliès is more important than the Lumière Brothers and Thomas Edison to me. They made moving pictures, Méliès made films. Let me put it this way: Take all the motherfuckers that don't like genre movies, tie them to a chair for eternity and tell them, 'Do you want to watch the fucking train arriving at the station for the rest of your life or do you want to watch A Trip to the Moon?' I bet you'd find that they would pick Méliès."


Steph L. - Dec 20, 2006 8:07:01 am PST #6513 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What I particularly love about Beautiful Girls is that none of the actors in it were Big! Stars! at the time, although some have gone on to some level of Big! Stardom! since then (and then drifted back out). It's just such a nice little self-contained movie.

And I agree that it's still probably Natalie Portman's best performance to date.