Spike: Ladies. Come on in. Plenty of blood in the fridge, don't be shy. Dawn: You mean like, real blood? Spike: What do you think? Dawn: Mostly I think, 'Eew!'

'Potential'


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bon bon - Dec 20, 2006 6:29:53 am PST #6506 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I do remember Save the Last Dance being surprisingly watchable, and Sean Patrick Thomas being irresistable.


Polter-Cow - Dec 20, 2006 6:35:12 am PST #6507 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It was a good movie, yeah, but I wouldn't have considered it a "lost classic."


Hayden - Dec 20, 2006 6:42:38 am PST #6508 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Oddly enough, I just read about Cockfighter yesterday.

I love this movie, but I'm all into Warren Oates.

There's some great movies on that list. I love The Swimmer, Safe, Ride Lonesome (anything by Budd Boettischer, really, but this one is one of the best), Cockfighter (natch), Wise Blood, and Two-Lane Blacktop (which is just astonishing and recommended to everyone who loves existential car race movies starring pop stars). Had no idea that anyone had made a movie of Housekeeping, a book that I love despite the troubling disconnect between Robinson's musical prose and her dull protagonist. I think y'all are right that some of those movies must be more underground across the pond, because quite a few don't seem so lost to me.


erikaj - Dec 20, 2006 7:21:56 am PST #6509 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I like Save The Last Dance, but classic? Although I like Julia Stiles...she reminds me of myself if I could look elfin, that is.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2006 7:43:30 am PST #6510 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

erika, don't limit yourself to potatohead Stiles. Aim higher.


DavidS - Dec 20, 2006 7:47:29 am PST #6511 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Interesting list. My favs on there would be:

Petulia (mod San Francisco, Julie Christie at her most radiant)
I Wanna Hold Your Hand (I bet Scrappy likes this)
Ace in the Hole (Jan Sterling has two all-time great noir lines in this movie. Billy Wilder scripted, 'natch.)
Top Secret (I desperately want the "Skeet Surfing" song. Val's unreasonably charismatic in this. His perfect trilogy is Top Secret, Real Genius and Tombstone.)
3 Women (Altman does Bergman's Persona. Shelley Duvall and Sissy Spacek are both fantastic)
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (as JZ notes I'm a fan. And as usual Frank and I share a movie brain. Sheryl Lee's performance ought to be legendary.)
A New Leaf (I love this movie and hardly anybody ever sees it. A great, quirky character driven comedy. If you love Walter Matthau you should watch this. If you don't love Walter Matthau - ptooie!)
Dreamchild (supercreepy Henson puppets. Young Peter Gallagher. Old Coral Browne. Rheumy and tortured Ian Holm. Coral Browne (Vincent Price's wife) had one of the all-time great put-downs: "Don't talk to me about writing! He couldn't write 'Fuck' on a dusty venetian blind!")
Breathless (of course, I love the original best, but this is an excellent pop art rock and roll version. It's got the Silver Surfer and X! C'mon. Tarantino is a big fan of this as well.)
Cutter's Way (Excellent 70s post-Watergate noir. It's on cable a lot. Do check it out)
Narrow Margin (Just saw this on TCM last week. Very taut cheapy thriller, with our favorite noir ballbuster, Marie Windsor.)
Wise Blood (Brad Dourif's greatest role! Perfectly cast. Doesn't quite get all the way to the book, because as Huston himself lamented, he didn't have Flannery's faith. Shot on the cheap and looks it. Awesome cast though).
Robin Hood (the Disney version is the ur-text for Furries, incidentally)


Jessica - Dec 20, 2006 8:03:29 am PST #6512 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

DH's interview wtih Guillermo del Toro is up! It's a really good interview, too -- he got to sit down one-on-one in person (as opposed to the usual press junket round-table situation), and Guillermo del Toro is made of so much awesome you just can't believe it. I want to live inside his head.

My favorite quote:

"People tend to think of genre as a lower form [of filmmaking] and I really don't. I believe genre movies are pure cinema, even the bad ones. In the history of film, George Méliès is more important than the Lumière Brothers and Thomas Edison to me. They made moving pictures, Méliès made films. Let me put it this way: Take all the motherfuckers that don't like genre movies, tie them to a chair for eternity and tell them, 'Do you want to watch the fucking train arriving at the station for the rest of your life or do you want to watch A Trip to the Moon?' I bet you'd find that they would pick Méliès."


Steph L. - Dec 20, 2006 8:07:01 am PST #6513 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What I particularly love about Beautiful Girls is that none of the actors in it were Big! Stars! at the time, although some have gone on to some level of Big! Stardom! since then (and then drifted back out). It's just such a nice little self-contained movie.

And I agree that it's still probably Natalie Portman's best performance to date.


juliana - Dec 20, 2006 8:10:42 am PST #6514 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

What I particularly love about Beautiful Girls is that none of the actors in it were Big! Stars! at the time, although some have gone on to some level of Big! Stardom! since then (and then drifted back out). It's just such a nice little self-contained movie.

And Rosie's monologue/rant is a thing of beauty.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 20, 2006 9:40:45 am PST #6515 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

What I particularly love about Beautiful Girls is that none of the actors in it were Big! Stars! at the time, although some have gone on to some level of Big! Stardom! since then (and then drifted back out).

Or they had been pretty big stars, but were no longer on the A-list (I'm thinking Timothy Hutton and Matt Dillon here)

It's just such a nice little self-contained movie.

I love it because it reminds me a bit of where I grew up (though Brunswick was a bigger town), and I knew/know people like those characters.

One of the other good ones on the list is THE PARALLAX VIEW, which is great 70's conpiracy thriller. Definitely good at inducing paranoia.

Sheryl Lee's performance ought to be legendary.

nods vigoroursly in agreement