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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 25, 2006 3:20:51 pm PST #5924 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Not that I don't like the idea of a Bond Girl's appeal being linked to her competence and snarky repartee rather than how much of a knockout she is, but if that's the way you cast it would be best to find something else to compliment her about.


§ ita § - Nov 25, 2006 3:21:59 pm PST #5925 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not that she displayed much competence. Boobs, yes. Snark, yes. Competence--merely told and not displayed.


bon bon - Nov 25, 2006 3:46:42 pm PST #5926 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

You're misestimating just how nice those knockers looked.

I saw it again, b/c I had nothing better to do this afternoon and commercials made me go. The pacing is not as bad when you know how long it's going to be. Not that the ending gained any more grippingness. Also, Strega, did you think the guy in glasses at the end was Le Chiffre? He was just another random villian who looks villianous.


§ ita § - Nov 25, 2006 3:49:48 pm PST #5927 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wait--you think they looked good, or bad?

Knowing the pacing aforehand, does the schmoop still feel interminable?


bon bon - Nov 25, 2006 3:58:58 pm PST #5928 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Just that she was fairly distracting because of those. I thought she looked ravishing, but even if you hate the dress, few straight men can really avoid staring at her chest. ETA: sorry, I missed your whitefonted line about her chest as well.

W/r/t the schmoop-- it's better. Because there's only five scenes in a row that seem to have the same point. One in Lake Como where he reveals the code to Vesper and the banker; a sex scene that reveals his balls are in working order; the scene on the beach where he decides to quit MI6; on the yacht where she looks furtive and sad; and the hotel room where she receives the phone call. It's not even that long in time, but without any action, you wonder where it's going.


§ ita § - Nov 25, 2006 4:03:33 pm PST #5929 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fair enough. I spent considerable time looking at her breasts and hoping that mine weren't ever that...in front of me. I will have to ask my companion what he thought of them. Hers, I mean.

So no one's seen Deja Vu? C'mon, people. Help a sister out.

Those five scenes you mention needed to be no more than three, in my estimation, and not consecutive, if you could help it. Breaking it up with flower arrangement would have been an upgrade.


Sean K - Nov 25, 2006 4:07:49 pm PST #5930 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Has anybody heard anything about the Pursuit of Happyness, Will Smith's new movie? The trailers are breaking my heart. It would o0nly be more broken if the movie turned out to suck.


bon bon - Nov 25, 2006 4:11:25 pm PST #5931 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I can see how there can be three, but fear they wouldn't be able sell the forever and ever love aspect without more. Funnily enough, it became clear on second viewing that they realized the same thing about the poker game, and broke it up with the unnecessary fight and poisoning scenes.

Sorry for not seeing the latest Bruckheimer/Scott collaboration when I could have watched Bond twice.


§ ita § - Nov 25, 2006 4:12:16 pm PST #5932 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Those trailers make me want to stab.

It's possible I just don't like having my heart warmed. At least not when I can see it coming.


§ ita § - Nov 25, 2006 4:13:38 pm PST #5933 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

bon, I don't think they sold it with five, so I don't feel they could have sold it much worse with three. Not sure if writing could have saved it, or just chemistry.