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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 30, 2006 9:18:19 am PST #5226 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Hmm, that brings up some interesting class issues in that Borden is a blatant Cockney (or at least lower-class - he SOUNDED Cockney to me, but I'm no expert), while Angier was a wealthy man "slumming" because he's addicted to the thrill of the audience.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 30, 2006 9:20:27 am PST #5227 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

On a lesser note, that was a disconcerting makeup job on Bowie - as one of the friend's I saw it with said, he looked surprisingly like Tom Skerritt. Good to see Bowie having fun with a role again, though. I always thought he was a great presence in movies, if not necessarily a great actor.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 30, 2006 10:17:49 am PST #5228 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Frank, I spotted another resemblance in the movie. If they do end up doing a Star Trek: The Early Years movie, Andy Serkis is beginning to look eerily like DeForest Kelly. I did a double take before realizing who he really was.

The real revelation, to me, was the final understanding that Angier was a worthless turd of a man, even aside from his crazy revenge plot, and deserved anything and everything Alfred -- or fate, or Wayne Brady -- could think of to do to him.

I was pretty much assuming that from the moment that he said that maiming Alred's hand and nearly destroying his livelihood wasn't enough, given that Julia's death wasn't a malicious or intentional one even if Alfred had been lying about remembering which knot he tied. It was clear from that moment on that he wouldn't be satisfied if Alfred were able to build any kind of life for himself .


Dana - Oct 30, 2006 10:28:52 am PST #5229 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

So, speaking of the knot, are we to assume that the reason Alfred couldn't answer the question was because Angier was asking the twin who wasn't on stage that night?

The whole thing is interesting, because Angier and the audience can never really be sure which twin did what. We know that the one who died is the one who loved Olivia, but other than that, I don't think it's clear which was which. Angier really only had a vendetta against one twin, in a way -- was it the same twin who pursued the rivalry, or were they both as committed? It didn't sound like it, at the end.

It may be a question answered by the book, I don't know.


Polter-Cow - Oct 30, 2006 10:30:30 am PST #5230 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh, wow, Dana, I never thought of that aspect.

Damn.


SailAweigh - Oct 30, 2006 10:35:20 am PST #5231 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Damn, all this Prestige talk is frustrating! I wanted to see that this weekend, but my dad wanted to see The Departed. While I enjoyed the movie muchly, I'm dying to see the one everyone is talking. about. right. now!


Polter-Cow - Oct 30, 2006 10:39:26 am PST #5232 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

And unfortunately, it's the kind of movie you have to talk about almost exclusively in whitefont.

I haven't seen The Departed, but people keep saying it's really good.


SailAweigh - Oct 30, 2006 10:41:57 am PST #5233 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

It was good. Despite knowing who is the mole in each organization, it was the suspense in watching them trying to flush each other out that was great. It kept me on the edge of my seat and there were enough HSQ moments that I actually jumped a couple of times. Even Jaws didn't do that to me.


Dana - Oct 30, 2006 10:45:14 am PST #5234 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I thought The Departed kind of fell apart in the last half hour or so, but I always enjoy watching Matt Damon. DiCaprio, I just can't connect to, for some reason, and I could have done with 800% less Nicholson.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 30, 2006 10:50:11 am PST #5235 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Frank, I spotted another resemblance in the movie. If they do end up doing a Star Trek: The Early Years movie, Andy Serkis is beginning to look eerily like DeForest Kelly.

Heh, I might need to see it again to confirm that. The guy who made the Tom Skerritt comparison immediately spotted Andy Serkis as Andy Serkis, which I thought was funny.