Plus bonus points for use of the word 'mosey'.

Oz ,'Same Time, Same Place'


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§ ita § - Feb 12, 2006 2:03:40 pm PST #491 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I loved the discussion about the joke in The Aristocrats, but I'm all about the analysis of humour.

Humour and killing people. That's what I like to dissect. Still, gives me less of a body count than my mother.


Betsy HP - Feb 12, 2006 2:05:46 pm PST #492 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

(It was incredibly annoying, for example, to spend most of the movie being told about the joke without letting us just hear the damn thing.)

Huh. Didn't George Carlin tell it in full at the beginning?

My disappointment was not getting to see more of wossname's performance at the Friars Club; that was where I'd really have liked to have seen more and been told less. My guess is that they could only get rights to a little of it.


Jessica - Feb 12, 2006 2:11:16 pm PST #493 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Didn't George Carlin tell it in full at the beginning?

He told a bare-bones sample version, IIRC. The rest of the film was snippets of longer versions of the joke surrounded by (IMO) not very interesting commentary -- I wouldn't have called it analysis. I left feeling teased.


§ ita § - Feb 12, 2006 2:14:03 pm PST #494 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wouldn't have called it analysis

It wasn't analysis of the joke, as far as I see it. It was (or afforded) analysis of the culture. Good times, good times.


Jessica - Feb 12, 2006 2:27:48 pm PST #495 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

From McSweeney's - Conversations I've Had During a Normal Day in Los Angeles, Modified to Include the Shocking Depiction of Racism Found in Paul Haggis's 2004 Film Crash


Betsy HP - Feb 12, 2006 2:46:37 pm PST #496 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I'm with ita; I was actually as interested in why people tell it, how they tell it, what nuances they find in it as I am in the actual joke. Having howevermany people that was tell the whole joke wouldn't have been nearly as compelling for me.


Jessica - Feb 12, 2006 2:57:04 pm PST #497 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I was actually as interested in why people tell it, how they tell it, what nuances they find in it as I am in the actual joke.

I didn't feel like there was much of that in the film either -- it seemed to be mostly people agreeing that everyone has their own version, and that the joke isn't really that funny when you break it down. And if it was going to be that shallow and repetitive anyway, I'd rather have just heard the joke.


DebetEsse - Feb 13, 2006 6:12:12 pm PST #498 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Can somebody Nilly me the link to the lj with historical reviews of "Sound of Music", "Alexander", "Braveheart", etc?


Jessica - Feb 14, 2006 5:29:59 am PST #499 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Okay, so Eight Below is really not a great movie, but OMG SURVIVAL DOGGIES! The human subplots were lame and boring, but the dogs made me cry. I'm such a giant sap sometimes.


DawnK - Feb 14, 2006 7:01:10 am PST #500 of 10001
giraffe mode

Jess thanks for that info! My 9 year old wants to see that movie in the worst way. Now I'm thinking we need to wait until it's out on DVD since he and I both are big 'ol saps when it comes to stuff like that. We'll be all sniffly and he gets all embarrassed when he cries in the theater.