Illyria: Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it. I wish to do more violence. Spike: Well, wishes just happen to be horses today.

'Not Fade Away'


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Aims - Jul 20, 2006 12:27:39 pm PDT #3043 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

bangs head on desk

I don't know a whole lot about Batman, other than what Joe has told me and what I have gotten from the movies. But first of all, I was really hoping the Batman Begins fanchise would NOT do The Joker. At least not for awhile. Every other franchise has done him. Find someone else. Give The Riddler another shot without that jackass Carey effing him up. Do Two-Face again. Good lord, try Poison Ivy again. But anyone, anyone but The Joker.

Second of all, Heath Ledger? SERIOUSLY??


erikaj - Jul 20, 2006 12:33:41 pm PDT #3044 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

nah. Would like a Poison Ivy movie.


sumi - Jul 20, 2006 12:36:37 pm PDT #3045 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I think that just because the Joker is in the film doesn't mean it's going to be all about the Joker.


Aims - Jul 20, 2006 12:47:49 pm PDT #3046 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

True enough, but I'd rather not see him at all.


erikaj - Jul 20, 2006 12:49:00 pm PDT #3047 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

He does team up with criminal Gotham fairly frequently.


sumi - Jul 20, 2006 12:49:13 pm PDT #3048 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Did mention of the Joker mess up BB for you?


Strega - Jul 20, 2006 12:50:21 pm PDT #3049 of 10001

If that leads to Michelle Williams as Harley, I think I'm okay with it.

It'd surprise me if no big bucks director ever got shown the door, but it's not something I have ammo for.

Oh, you can certainly be crazy (or drunk) enough to get booted, because then you're risking their investment (and, by extension, their jobs). But I think they're willing to overlook bruised feelings when they can soothe their egos with piles of money.


Aims - Jul 20, 2006 12:55:44 pm PDT #3050 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Did mention of the Joker mess up BB for you?

Was he mentioned? I honestly don't remember if he was.

Where was he mentioned? Some scene at Arkham?

I guess I wouldn't mind if there were like, little clues that were mostly asides and ignored by Bats. A bit of foreshadowing, if you will, for a lter movie.


sumi - Jul 20, 2006 12:59:39 pm PDT #3051 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

At the very end of the movie.

Also, has there been any confirmation of Liev Schrieber as Harvey Dent?


Polter-Cow - Jul 20, 2006 1:00:18 pm PDT #3052 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Was he mentioned? I honestly don't remember if he was.

At the very, very end. They make a reference to, I think, whatever the Joker was doing when Bats first met him in the comics. They may have even shown his calling card.