Also, this time there was a Transformers teaser. We couldn't stop laughing. It looked like a Robot Chicken parody.

I had a similar reaction to that trailer.

Hec, I never thought about Dalma being the women who broke his heart, good point. I loved all of the heart and chest symbolism. How his heart is still beating but in a wooden chest while the chest of his body is empty.

Saw PotC2. Was enjoyable, but didn't love it as much as the first. There were many very funny moments, however, so I expect I will enjoy it more on rewatch.

The last scene was not, unfortunately, worth sitting through the credits squirming and mumbling "comeONhurryUPigottaPEE!"

I still don't understand why the compass wouldn't work for Jack.

The rolling wheel was kinda dumb. Would have been better if it hadn't lasted as long.

I second previous opinions on Scruffy!Norrington, nothing else to offer there.

I think the thing that disappointed me was that in the first, Jack was a clever, audacious manipulator who only seemed like a cowardly buffoon. This time, he seemed more of a cowardly buffoon and less either clever, brave, or successfully manipulative. Did anyone else get that feeling?

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I still don't understand why

Because it points to your heart's truest desire. And Jack doesn't know what he wants. Which Tia Dalma states explicitly. Whereas in the first movie he just wanted the Black Pearl, because it represented freedom to him.

Best SOAP shirt so far.

Hee. That's awesome.

Oooohhhh. Okay. I thought he just wanted the heart so he could be free of Davy Jones.

I really didn't enjoy the film much at all, and I think a large part of that was the fact that making the central driving theme of your film "Protagonist is ambivalent about his goals" makes for a reeeeeeeeally uncompelling story. Such as there was a story at all. They should have just called it PotC 2: Trailer for PotC 3.

Didn't she say that Jack's problem with the compass was that he wasn't sure he wanted what he was looking for? It's only slight difference, but I think that distinction is important. My hunch is that he doesn't entirely want the heart for the same reason that Beckett does: whoever has it controls the seas.

Strega, your distinction is correct. I don't think Jack wants to control the seas. He'd prefer they were free of all control.

Jessica, I didn't like it either. I was beginning to think I was the only one. For me, I just didn't care about the characters. I didn't care about what happened to Sparrow, Davy Jones, Will or Elizabeth. It finally got interesting at the end with Eliz. betraying Sparrow, but it didn't get played out.

I didn't like it enough to see the third one.

I saw PotC tonight, and I have to say -- I thought it was a great movie for a scorching hot summer Sunday afternoon. I *didn't* think it was fun, the way the first one was; it was way too dark to be much fun.

And don't get me wrong; I love dark. I just think it could have used a little more fun to balance it out. And it could have used some tighter editing -- I think the entire scene on Cannibal Island could have been cut out. It told us *nothing* and did nothing to advance the plot or character development.

Scruffy!Norrington was so fucking hot, and so much like scruffy!Wes (who I *loved*) that I almost squee-ed when he first appeared.

Davy Jones and his crew grossed me out completely. Which I suppose is a compliment to the makeup/prosthetic crew.

And is it just me, or was the Krakken a giant vagina dentata ???