I still don't understand why
Because it points to your heart's truest desire. And Jack doesn't know what he wants. Which Tia Dalma states explicitly. Whereas in the first movie he just wanted the Black Pearl, because it represented freedom to him.
You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
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DavidS - Jul 16, 2006 5:28:41 pm PDT #2918 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Hil R. - Jul 16, 2006 5:32:19 pm PDT #2919 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Best SOAP shirt so far.
Hee. That's awesome.
Zenkitty - Jul 16, 2006 5:32:50 pm PDT #2920 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Oooohhhh. Okay. I thought he just wanted the heart so he could be free of Davy Jones.
Jessica - Jul 16, 2006 5:37:33 pm PDT #2921 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I really didn't enjoy the film much at all, and I think a large part of that was the fact that making the central driving theme of your film "Protagonist is ambivalent about his goals" makes for a reeeeeeeeally uncompelling story. Such as there was a story at all. They should have just called it PotC 2: Trailer for PotC 3.
Strega - Jul 16, 2006 5:54:48 pm PDT #2922 of 10001
Didn't she say that Jack's problem with the compass was that he wasn't sure he wanted what he was looking for? It's only slight difference, but I think that distinction is important. My hunch is that he doesn't entirely want the heart for the same reason that Beckett does: whoever has it controls the seas.
DavidS - Jul 16, 2006 6:42:28 pm PDT #2923 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Strega, your distinction is correct. I don't think Jack wants to control the seas. He'd prefer they were free of all control.
ChiKat - Jul 16, 2006 7:03:50 pm PDT #2924 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Jessica, I didn't like it either. I was beginning to think I was the only one. For me, I just didn't care about the characters. I didn't care about what happened to Sparrow, Davy Jones, Will or Elizabeth. It finally got interesting at the end with Eliz. betraying Sparrow, but it didn't get played out.
I didn't like it enough to see the third one.
Steph L. - Jul 16, 2006 7:20:46 pm PDT #2925 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I saw PotC tonight, and I have to say -- I thought it was a great movie for a scorching hot summer Sunday afternoon. I *didn't* think it was fun, the way the first one was; it was way too dark to be much fun.
And don't get me wrong; I love dark. I just think it could have used a little more fun to balance it out. And it could have used some tighter editing -- I think the entire scene on Cannibal Island could have been cut out. It told us *nothing* and did nothing to advance the plot or character development.
Scruffy!Norrington was so fucking hot, and so much like scruffy!Wes (who I *loved*) that I almost squee-ed when he first appeared.
Davy Jones and his crew grossed me out completely. Which I suppose is a compliment to the makeup/prosthetic crew.
And is it just me, or was the Krakken a giant vagina dentata ???
Lee - Jul 16, 2006 7:34:14 pm PDT #2926 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
You're too late Steph. Scruffington is mine. Except when he is vomiting-- then you can have him.
Yes to your last question though.
Beverly - Jul 16, 2006 9:29:33 pm PDT #2927 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
I squeed at Norrington's voice, before he was ever onscreen. Loves that voice, I do. And all the rest of the scruffiness. Except for the vomit.
And since nobody else has brought it up here, did anybody catch that the people standing in the water around Tia Dalma's holding lit candles and crying were mourning Jack, yes, but that scene was also a tribute to post-Katrina New Orleans?