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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Dana - May 28, 2006 6:53:40 am PDT #1909 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I thought that the scenes where Magneto rejected Mystique and where Magneto was stabbed with the cure were really poignant in a way, and completely tromped on by the movie. Also, pretty much undermined by the last scene with Magneto, although I do like the idea that the cure doesn't hold.

Mostly, I'm looking forward to the fanfic.


§ ita § - May 28, 2006 6:56:39 am PDT #1910 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wolverine kills. It's a character point. Wolverine's also emo about Jean. That's canon too. So those elements didn't bother me at all.


Narrator - May 28, 2006 8:48:10 am PDT #1911 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Saw X-Men III -- Great ideas, poorly executed. The characters -- their traumas and development -- were underdeveloped. ** I am not a comic book fan, so I learned about these characters through the movies. For the ones that I was introduced before, the wrap up to their stories was …boring.

I liked the idea of the Cure. It raised some nice points about being different, etc. And I liked that the characters noted that the issues are different for those mutants who can more easily fit in – “pass” -- (like Storm, Xavier, Wolverine, Bobby, Pyro) than for those who cannot (the Beast, Rogue). I would have preferred that the point be shown rather than said.

Rogue’s decision made sense to me on some level, but not enough for any real emotional payoff. No question when she first came to the school she would have taken the Cure. Now, she’s got some really strong feelings for Bobby, and I get that she wants to kiss him, etc. but does she see any reason for not taking the Cure? Does she see some value in her mutant status? Some sense of pride? Of contribution to the group?

Angel – completely underdeveloped.

Storm – had more lines in this movie but I still don’t get – or care about – her.

The Jean Grey storyline was particularly rushed. This needed its own movie maybe.

I don’t feel much about killing the characters off. Cyclops may be a key character in the comics, but in the movies he came off as boring. For me, in part it’s because we cannot see the actor’s eyes and in part because the character paled in comparison to Wolverine. As for Charles, his absence creates some nice challenges for the group. Also, I do wonder if his consciousness is somehow “out there” and can be accessed.

I loved Magneto’s reaction to Mystique no longer being a mutant. Even though she saved his life and he couldn’t bring himself to think of her as anything more than a worthless human. It seemed to me at the end of the movie that Magneto was moving the chess piece without touching it. He didn’t move it much, but it looked like he moved it. Which suggests that the Cure may be not be final, or that it may not be permanent on a mutant as powerful as Magneto. Which bodes well for future movies. **


Kalshane - May 28, 2006 12:40:46 pm PDT #1912 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Narrator- re: Your whitefont about Xavier. There's a 10-second scene after the credits that answers your question.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 28, 2006 12:45:37 pm PDT #1913 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

How sad does it make me that the primary conversation spawned by X3 is the prettiness of the actors? Very sad.

That's just a sideline. The primary conversation seems to be about how badly the writing sucked.

I was sorry to see Cyclops go in the rather pathetic half-offscreen way they handled his demise. I think Marsden is a much better actor than he's been allowed to show in the X-Men franchise. Hope whatever he's doing in the Superman movie justifies his not-quite-absence from this one.

Interesting choice for Storm, what with her being eager to have a longtime friend and companion killed rather than cured. Also for apparently becoming The Human Top.


Sean K - May 28, 2006 2:15:33 pm PDT #1914 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Yeah, Matt. The Human Top thing I thought was just bug fuck silly.


Sean K - May 28, 2006 5:49:59 pm PDT #1915 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

So, I just finished watching Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill. It was a very moving film. I've lived with conures before (loud, screechy birds, that can be quite annoying, and also quite lovable, sometimes within moments of each other), so the movie was maybe more personal to me. Having lived with conures, I can say that it really is quite easy to attribute motives to their behaviors that easily, and I was glad that Mark and the film's director got together as a couple in the end, otherwise the end would have been just way too sad for me to handle.


erikaj - May 28, 2006 5:59:07 pm PDT #1916 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

wasn't that great?


Sean K - May 28, 2006 6:09:31 pm PDT #1917 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

It was really the best possible ending, I think.


Cashmere - May 28, 2006 6:12:42 pm PDT #1918 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I've seen the trailers for Casino Royale a few times now and I really don't understand why the hard-core Bondies have their knickers in a twist over Daniel Craig. He looks smokin' hot and very Bond-like to me.