Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.

River ,'Objects In Space'


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kat perez - May 27, 2006 8:21:04 pm PDT #1900 of 10001
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Oh, and I saw the trailer for SoaP, and all I can say is Samuel -Motherfuckin'- Jackson. Looks hilarious. Also saw trailers for My Super Ex-Girlfriend, Ghost Rider and Nacho Libre (which caused much hilarity in the theater but had me squirming in my seat).

ETA: No need to apologize. I suspect that were I more invested in the X Men, I'd probably have been disappointed as well. As it was, I was just happy to be inside a cool theater on a hot, muggy afternoon. Enjoying the movie was just a bonus.


§ ita § - May 27, 2006 8:30:36 pm PDT #1901 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wish we'd had a SoaP preview. But I'm glad we didn't have one for Nacho Libre. God, that looks like the anti-ita movie. I'm curious about Ghost Rider and might go searching the web for that one.

My Super Ex-Girlfriend... well, one of the Wilson brothers hasn't been working out. It looks way too neurotic for me to watch.


kat perez - May 27, 2006 8:40:08 pm PDT #1902 of 10001
"We have trust issues." Mylar

That trailer for Nacho Libre has to be one of the single most offensive things I've seen in a while. And Penelope Cruz, what was she thinking? It's no Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco, I'll tell you what.

Ghost Rider could be good. Yet another superhero about whom I know less than nothing. At least in the trailer, it didn't come off super-cheesy, like Evil Kneivel in flames. And Nicholas Cage didn't appear to be either phoning it in or going so far over the top that he circles back round to the bottom again. So, there's that.

Super Ex-Girlfriend seemed like a he-man, woman-haters club movie. I wasn't feeling it. And I love me some hermanos Wilson.


Gris - May 27, 2006 9:06:28 pm PDT #1903 of 10001
Hey. New board.

How sad does it make me that the primary conversation spawned by X3 is the prettiness of the actors? Very sad.

That movie should inspire political and philosophical discussions! We should be talking about what it means to be a persecuted minority, and the tendency of the majority to kill or "fix" the minority. We should be discussing the power of jealousy and fear, the difference between necessary force and vigilantism, the brainwashing capabilities of political environs. I never cared about the X-Men until the second movie, but I've read about 20 trade paperbacks of X-Men material since then, because I find the material both fun and fascinating - they've joined Batman in my list of Big Superheroes that have enough serious meat beyond Bang! Flash! to be worth paying attention to.

And it hurts me that this movie isn't going to live up to that. Though I will see it, eventually, obviously.

Nacho Libre will be bad, and POTC2 will be fun, whether it's good, bad, or otherwise.


Kalshane - May 27, 2006 9:30:49 pm PDT #1904 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Who all did the X-Men kill? I mean, yeah Wolverine killed people by the dozens, but that's what he does. Storm killed Callisto, which I will say was out of character and was probably entirely for the sake of the piercing gag. Which is a really poor reason. But beyond that, who besides Phoenix and the bad guys killed anyone?


§ ita § - May 27, 2006 9:38:10 pm PDT #1905 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have no reason to think that none of the people that Beast plowed through died. I am not sure, but I was thinking that Storm killed other people with her shenanigans, but the focus on Callisto's death makes me think that she was the only one.

See, I was impressed when Pyro killed. I thought. Damn. He's serious. He's bad. But then, Wolverine's killing was so blasé. And Storm's was monumentally, 180°, wrong.


Jessica - May 28, 2006 6:31:05 am PDT #1906 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

and b)

I haven't seen the film (and probably won't, at this point), but this had me rolling my eyes while E was recounting the plot to me. I mean, you've got two plotlines. You've got an unbelievably obvious way to bring them together -- seriously, how did they miss that??

That trailer for Nacho Libre has to be one of the single most offensive things I've seen in a while. And Penelope Cruz, what was she thinking? It's no Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco, I'll tell you what.

This is exactly what I've been thinking ever since I saw the trailer.


Nutty - May 28, 2006 6:47:38 am PDT #1907 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

On the X-Men front, how weird was it that Ice-boy had forehead lines? I know it's somebody in his 20s playing 17 (or thereabouts), but, I am 30 and he had more forehead lines than me. Is everybody in Hollywood a chain-smoker, or is the butt-vs.-face war starting way way too young??

Agree that Hugh Jackman looked drawn throughout the movie. Also, wicked emo. Way more emo than previous history would allow. NSM the bare-knuckles boondocks wrestler, you know? NSM the guy who, when queried about whether the knives popping out hurts, just grimaced and said, "Every time."

I thought the movie could have been forgiven its pointless silliness if its script had had an iota of wit. Sadly, Joss was not called in to spin-doctor this one.


Kalshane - May 28, 2006 6:49:30 am PDT #1908 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

What made me go "Holy shit, he's serious!" was Magneto crushing all the SUVs when they try to rescue Mystique. It seemed a little bit much, even for him. (Though not so much had they found out about the cure weapons before hand.) But I was willing to accept it.

Wolverine killing people is old hat after the 2nd movie. He sliced and diced his way through a bunch of Stryker's troops then. So it didn't really surprise me here.

I assumed Beast and Colossus weren't killing anyone because they clobber baddies all the time in the comics without killing so barring evidence to the contrary they were fighting as they always do.


Dana - May 28, 2006 6:53:40 am PDT #1909 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I thought that the scenes where Magneto rejected Mystique and where Magneto was stabbed with the cure were really poignant in a way, and completely tromped on by the movie. Also, pretty much undermined by the last scene with Magneto, although I do like the idea that the cure doesn't hold.

Mostly, I'm looking forward to the fanfic.