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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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SuziQ - May 26, 2006 6:58:49 pm PDT #1865 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Student Bodies??? I remember that one...but I'm not 100% on the title.


bon bon - May 26, 2006 7:00:50 pm PDT #1866 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

No, you're right. I googled "horror satire" and "running body count" and voila, instant gratification.


Kalshane - May 26, 2006 7:04:54 pm PDT #1867 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I actually enjoyed X-3. It could have been better, it certainly wasn't nearly as good as X-2, but I enjoyed it. Plus, we got a Cannonball Special which made me cheer. The ending felt rather trite considering things should be nowhere near happiness and puppies after what happened at Alcatraz. And I'm annoyed that Cyclops bought it more or less off-screen. But I think Kelsey Grammer did an excellent job as Beast (and I thought they did a great job of replicating his fighting style) and even Juggernaut didn't disappoint me like I was expecting him to (since no one is remotely big enough.) I was surprised at the huge body count in the picture. Not just the loss of major characters but the sheer number of humans and second-string mutants that got slaughtered. It was a bit much.

I do think the movie suffered from trying to run both the cure plot and the Pheonix plot, and I'm not a fan of how they handled the Pheonix but I was an enjoyable two hours.

(Edited because I'm not sure what the heck a hgur is, but I'm pretty confident it's not a time measurement.)


Jars - May 27, 2006 1:00:08 am PDT #1868 of 10001

Saw X-3 yesterday. Was really, really annoyed by it. And I hate being one of those fangirls who gets miffed because they make changes from canon, but this is the one time I'm going to have to let my freak flag fly.

They killed Scott, Xavier and Jean in the same movie! And only Jean's death was in any way interesting. They 'cured' Rogue! The freaking leader of the X-Men! Her character is not one of those that would want a cure! I don't think even her character in the first two movies would justify her wanting it in this one. Angel, who they made a big deal of in the press, has about three lines. They introduced a huge array of new chracters, which the geek in me enjoyed, but won't have meant anything for a lot of the audience, and also meant less time devoted to the Phoenix story. Plus the whole Bobby/Kitty/Rogue bit was pointless, and, again, distracted from the main storylines, which were being smooshed in anyway.

There was stuff I liked - Juggernaut wasn't nearly as bad as I thought he'd be; Colossus was cool, (plus fastball special!); they showed Ice-Man iceing out; and Ian McKellen is always a joy to watch. Plus, the 'cure' plot was interesting, and I thought they dealt with it pretty well.

So I'm pretty sure that if you're not particularly invested in the characters (and I'm not even a particularly big X-Men fan), you'd enjoy it well enough. It's not brilliant, but it's a fun enough adventure. Le Bloke has been looking at it as an Alternate Reality X-Men, which definitely helps me appreciate it a bit more.

I also watched Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang last night, which I thought was hilarious. Robert Downey Jr. was a joy, as usual, and Val Kilmer was funny. I didn't know he could do funny. The whole meta-noir structure worked really well, I thought.


§ ita § - May 27, 2006 6:47:05 am PDT #1869 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I found X3 irritating. First off, that's really not my Storm. The additional screen time drove that home. Stand with your back straight woman. Act like a thief and a goddess. But really? You don't kill. Most of the X Men don't.

Except here in the movie.

I thought characterisations were off, plots were stupid (why did Magneto bring Jean along if he wasn't going to have her do anything? Especially if she can do everything?)

I'm glad I saw it, but there will be no purchasing of this DVD.


Sean K - May 27, 2006 7:26:44 am PDT #1870 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

First off, that's really not my Storm.

All of what you said, ita, plus? Was the spinning thing really necessary. It was really not working for me on film.


Sean K - May 27, 2006 7:28:40 am PDT #1871 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

You don't [whitefont]. Most of the X Men don't.

And, and and....! Wasn't the person she killed Callisto???? That feels very not right to me. I seem to remember bonding between those two at some point or other in the comics.


§ ita § - May 27, 2006 7:37:10 am PDT #1872 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They played fast and loose with the names. I think that was Callisto, but she didn't have the right powers. Technically, Storm did kill Callisto in the comics, or might as well have. But she has a healing factor, and in the end there was some bonding.

I could ignore the slaughter of my favourite woman in the first two, but with the more lines and strange behaviour in X3, it was too much.


Pete, Husband of Jilli - May 27, 2006 8:06:20 am PDT #1873 of 10001
"I've got a gun! I've got a mother-flippin' gun!" - Moss, The IT Crowd

ita, I know you weren't fussed on the Superman Returns trailers so far. Apparently at some showings of X3, an entirely new trailer was shown. Currently the only way to see this online is at this YouTube link.

Me? Still excited to see this film.


Gris - May 27, 2006 8:35:06 am PDT #1874 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I think it's gonna be good. Which annoys me, because I want X-Men 3 to be good, and don't care that Superman will be good, because I don't care a whit about Superman. So I wish Brian Singer had stayed with the X-Men, and let somebody less decent do Superman.

Much like I wish Sam Raimi had done something other than Spider-Man, who I also don't care a whit about. Good movies, but I couldn't love them because Peter and his whole Spidery world just doesn't do it for me. If he was going to do a superhero movie, it should have been Daredevil, maybe. Without Ben. Or a Huntress movie. That would be sweet - Huntress should totally be in the third Batman Begins movie.

Just for the record, I also don't care very much about Wonder Woman, though of course I'll be seeing that movie as well. I do like her more than Supes and Spidey, at least.

But the world likes Spidey, and Supes, so I have to settle for my beloved X-Men getting only two good movies. I can deal.