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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Sue - May 26, 2006 4:13:54 pm PDT #1859 of 10001
hip deep in pie

In my attempt to whittle down the list of "What! You've never seen..." movies, I watched Breathless tonight.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the origins of Hec's hair fetish

Next up, The Conversation.


DavidS - May 26, 2006 4:52:53 pm PDT #1860 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the origins of Hec's hair fetish

Not the origin, but certainly a key reference point in the whole personal mythos. Yeah, this picture pinged me though. (She's not holding a tribble. That's her hair after she first got it cut for St. Joan.)

Just a little iconic, though, yeah.

Fantastique!

But as with Maggie O'Connell, she just looked bland/pretty with longer hair.


DavidS - May 26, 2006 4:55:20 pm PDT #1861 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Next up, The Conversation.

Great movie! I always link it in my mind with De Palma's Blow Out since they're both meditations on surveillence and truth in the Watergate aftermath.

It's very cerebral in working out it's central conceit, but it's also very powerful because of (a) Coppola's inherent juiciness and (b) Gene Hackman's amazing performance. (Contained contained contained....)


Sue - May 26, 2006 5:11:50 pm PDT #1862 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I recently read, The Conversations, which was Michael Ondaatje talking to Walter Murch about film editing, and they kept coming back to The Conversation, which piqued my interest. Of course, I've already forgotten all the details of the film they talk about, so I'll have to re-read it.

1960's & 70's American film is a huge gap in my already very gappy movie viewing. I only saw Godfathers I & II in the past year.


Sean K - May 26, 2006 5:14:13 pm PDT #1863 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Wonders never cease. Stephanie Zacharek wrote a review of a comic book movie (X-3) that I don't completely disagree with, and manages to impress me with her knowledge of X-Men comics in the process.

ETA: standard Salon click-thru disclaimer


bon bon - May 26, 2006 6:56:19 pm PDT #1864 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Bugging me tonight: anyone remember a particularly low-budget horror movie spoof from the eighties with a running body count and a creepy janitor? I think it was called something anodyne like "Horror Movie" but I can't find it.


SuziQ - May 26, 2006 6:58:49 pm PDT #1865 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Student Bodies??? I remember that one...but I'm not 100% on the title.


bon bon - May 26, 2006 7:00:50 pm PDT #1866 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

No, you're right. I googled "horror satire" and "running body count" and voila, instant gratification.


Kalshane - May 26, 2006 7:04:54 pm PDT #1867 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I actually enjoyed X-3. It could have been better, it certainly wasn't nearly as good as X-2, but I enjoyed it. Plus, we got a Cannonball Special which made me cheer. The ending felt rather trite considering things should be nowhere near happiness and puppies after what happened at Alcatraz. And I'm annoyed that Cyclops bought it more or less off-screen. But I think Kelsey Grammer did an excellent job as Beast (and I thought they did a great job of replicating his fighting style) and even Juggernaut didn't disappoint me like I was expecting him to (since no one is remotely big enough.) I was surprised at the huge body count in the picture. Not just the loss of major characters but the sheer number of humans and second-string mutants that got slaughtered. It was a bit much.

I do think the movie suffered from trying to run both the cure plot and the Pheonix plot, and I'm not a fan of how they handled the Pheonix but I was an enjoyable two hours.

(Edited because I'm not sure what the heck a hgur is, but I'm pretty confident it's not a time measurement.)


Jars - May 27, 2006 1:00:08 am PDT #1868 of 10001

Saw X-3 yesterday. Was really, really annoyed by it. And I hate being one of those fangirls who gets miffed because they make changes from canon, but this is the one time I'm going to have to let my freak flag fly.

They killed Scott, Xavier and Jean in the same movie! And only Jean's death was in any way interesting. They 'cured' Rogue! The freaking leader of the X-Men! Her character is not one of those that would want a cure! I don't think even her character in the first two movies would justify her wanting it in this one. Angel, who they made a big deal of in the press, has about three lines. They introduced a huge array of new chracters, which the geek in me enjoyed, but won't have meant anything for a lot of the audience, and also meant less time devoted to the Phoenix story. Plus the whole Bobby/Kitty/Rogue bit was pointless, and, again, distracted from the main storylines, which were being smooshed in anyway.

There was stuff I liked - Juggernaut wasn't nearly as bad as I thought he'd be; Colossus was cool, (plus fastball special!); they showed Ice-Man iceing out; and Ian McKellen is always a joy to watch. Plus, the 'cure' plot was interesting, and I thought they dealt with it pretty well.

So I'm pretty sure that if you're not particularly invested in the characters (and I'm not even a particularly big X-Men fan), you'd enjoy it well enough. It's not brilliant, but it's a fun enough adventure. Le Bloke has been looking at it as an Alternate Reality X-Men, which definitely helps me appreciate it a bit more.

I also watched Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang last night, which I thought was hilarious. Robert Downey Jr. was a joy, as usual, and Val Kilmer was funny. I didn't know he could do funny. The whole meta-noir structure worked really well, I thought.