Mal: Hell, this job I would pull for free. Zoe: Can I have your share? Mal: No. Zoe: If you die, can I have your share? Mal: Yes.

'The Train Job'


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Scrappy - Apr 02, 2006 6:50:43 am PDT #1223 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

When Good Actors Do Bad Movies


erikaj - Apr 02, 2006 8:00:21 am PDT #1224 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

He has three. With his acting-school sweetheart. Aww. Maybe he's got tax problems...even with his time in The Box, he can't beat the IRS. But, I totally feel your friend's sentiment."Thief" is good, though.


Sean K - Apr 02, 2006 8:17:53 am PDT #1225 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I used to be appalled at what some actors would take for a job, but I've now worked long enough in the business to know that all you see is the end product. You never know how good the script the actor originally read was, how badly it was mangled, either during shooting or editing, or what the actor's bills are or how tongue in cheek they thought they were being.

And some actors just like to act. Maybe they even thought it would be a challenge to deliver a decent performance in a really crappy movie.

Hell, maybe they just have no taste.


Theodosia - Apr 02, 2006 8:44:02 am PDT #1226 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Occasionally, you have to check to see if they're blinking "T O R T U R E" at the camera.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 02, 2006 8:54:34 am PDT #1227 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I just think of all those British actors like Vincent Price and Peter Cushing that maintained their dignity through hundreds of cheap, hokey movies.


Betsy HP - Apr 02, 2006 10:24:20 am PDT #1228 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Vincent Price was a brandname, and people hired him wanting Vincent Price. Fred Not-Established Actor has to do what the director tells him to, or he won't get work. If the director wants a caricature, that's what you deliver.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 02, 2006 11:31:58 am PDT #1229 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I just think of all those British actors like Vincent Price and Peter Cushing that maintained their dignity through hundreds of cheap, hokey movies.

Vincent Price was a brandname, and people hired him wanting Vincent Price. Fred Not-Established Actor has to do what the director tells him to, or he won't get work. If the director wants a caricature, that's what you deliver.

Also (to be pedantic), not British, but from the South (Georgia, if I remember correctly). Christopher Lee would have been the pick there (though certainly the keeping your dignity in appalling circumstances applies to Price in SPADES).


erikaj - Apr 02, 2006 11:50:00 am PDT #1230 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

There is, I believe, a certain "Braugherness" that people pay AB to deliver...he has an ability, rather like Morgan Freeman's, to make really dumb dialogue sound like something that means a whole hell of a lot. But it's true that: a. Frank Pembleton was the icon, not necessarily Braugher.

b. I would probably rate that higher than the industry does because I am a big old fangirl and would be thrilled to hear my name in the Voice, right? And "Please don't be an idiot. Thank you." changed my life. Which is something your Piven-style agent is not going to cop to.


Theodosia - Apr 02, 2006 12:20:58 pm PDT #1231 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

One of the few random facts I know is that Price was a Princeton grad. I saw a picture of him at about 22 in a student Shakespeare production, and oh my god, what a gorgeous young thing he was! In velvet and tights, no less.


Kathy A - Apr 02, 2006 4:16:53 pm PDT #1232 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I always remind people that Laurence Fucking Olivier did Clash of the Titans.

Don't forget that Michael Caine had to miss picking up his Oscar to film Jaws 4.