LA metro has changed so much, I think. I don't know about its interior, but Valencia has gotten much bigger, Palmdale has gone from all military to suburb city. There's actual TRAFFIC north of 134/405 junction. People are commuting from INSANE distances. They're doing it up here, too. That's another reason why I'm for reclaiming the urban areas. No more boarded up ghost property. Developers have totally messed up the very beautiful rolling hills you used to see when turning off of I-5 and onto the 580. There's so much sprawl everywhere.
Oh, yeah, baby, it's snakalicious in here.
Xander ,'Empty Places'
Spike's Bitches 28: For the Safety of Puppies...and Christmas!
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
Spidra Webster - Feb 01, 2006 11:26:28 am PST #7224 of 10001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.
Cass - Feb 01, 2006 11:34:51 am PST #7225 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Yeah, but PDX and Seattle have very similar climates, so why Portland is always so high on the list and Seattle so low is beyond me.On a lot of the quizes I did, Seattle was listed right there with Portland. Little differences of course but quite similar. What are housing costs in Seattle like?
Of course I have absolutely no cites for the other searchy things because once I had made up my mind I deleted all of my bookmarks.
Sigh... I knew cleaning was a bad thing.
P.M. Marc - Feb 01, 2006 11:40:25 am PST #7226 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Little differences of course but quite similar. What are housing costs in Seattle like?
High, considering wages. We were named most overpriced, after all.
It may *sound* reasonable to those in California, but for us to move to a decent 'hood close-in in a house at the same level of crap as ours would be about $375k. (A year ago, it was $325k. The places we want to live have jumped in price at least $50k, while during the same period, the amount we could get for our place only went up about $15k, which should seem like a lot, drat it.)
Jessica - Feb 01, 2006 11:43:51 am PST #7227 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
It may *sound* reasonable to those in California, but for us to move to a decent 'hood close-in in a house at the same level of crap as ours would be about $375k.
$375k in my neighborhood would almost buy a studio apartment.
(Not trying to one-up, just boggling at how many lotteries I'd have to win before even thinking about home ownership.)
Cass - Feb 01, 2006 11:46:24 am PST #7228 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Ah. So about half of where I live now and a little less than twice where I hope to be living soon. Sheesh, it's insanity. The numbers don't even look real to me.
I probably was scored for Portland more than Seattle because I placed home ownership costs as pretty damn important. Which is just as well because I don't think Seattle would work for me right now for personal reasons. But I am thrilled that I could be close enough to visit soon.
$375k in my neighborhood would almost buy a studio apartment.We ran out of those about three or four years ago. And it isn't oneupmanship, it is just that I boggle when people don't understand why leaving California might seem real shiny.
My sister paid a lot for a cookie cutter falling apart tract house that gives her a two-hour commute each way to work. And with all of that, she can't be putting much away for the nephlet's college. California might be great in some ways but the toll it takes is high as well.
DCJensen - Feb 01, 2006 11:49:36 am PST #7229 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
How are you defining "neat," DCJ?
I'm not coming up with a reliable easy answer. Definitely a rustic feel, not suburban, not rural, partially small town-ish, but maybe with a more "bohemian"/alternative feel. Not stereotypically so, but definite vibes of residual 60's influence.
Topanga the town was even moreso.
P.M. Marc - Feb 01, 2006 11:55:46 am PST #7230 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
$375k in my neighborhood would almost buy a studio apartment.
See, I wouldn't MIND the cost of housing if the wages here reflected them, but they kinda don't. Thus the overpriced accusation from, IIRC, Forbes.
§ ita § - Feb 01, 2006 11:56:49 am PST #7231 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
a rustic feel, not suburban, not rural, partially small town-ish, but maybe with a more "bohemian"/alternative feel
Yeah, probably pricy. But not my cup of tea, so it's not like I've been paying attention.
Gudanov - Feb 01, 2006 11:58:41 am PST #7232 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping
Jessica - Feb 01, 2006 11:58:49 am PST #7233 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
it is just that I boggle when people don't understand why leaving California might seem real shiny.
That's just it though -- I have no desire to ever leave Brooklyn. Hell, I don't even want to leave Carroll Gardens. The reason houses are so pricey in this neighborhood is that it's perfect. It's got every kind of shopping and eating you could want within walking distance, it's got great schools, it's a mile from the park, it's 15 minutes from Manhattan...I love living here so much. I doubt we'll be able to afford to stay here with kids, but it'll kill me to leave.