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Natter 41: Why Do I Click on ita's Links?!
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Trudy Booth - Jan 05, 2006 11:27:08 am PST #7974 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Trudy Booth - Jan 05, 2006 11:29:11 am PST #7975 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I dont' see a moral difference between inclusivizing-up the hymns and going into the Sistine Chapel, and repainting this [link] picture face of God (on the right) such that it ends up androgynous.
Though if you are going to mess with a masterpiece give poor Adam a, um, hand.
Jesse - Jan 05, 2006 11:29:31 am PST #7976 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I'm totally with you, Cindy.
§ ita § - Jan 05, 2006 11:31:03 am PST #7977 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I dont' see a moral difference between inclusivizing-up the hymns and going into the Sistine Chapel, and repainting this [link] picture face of God (on the right) such that it ends up androgynous.
Well, the original hymns do still exist, so I do see a difference. At least they're not messing with the only version.
Topic!Cindy - Jan 05, 2006 11:34:09 am PST #7978 of 10002
What is even happening?
Though if you are going to mess with a masterpiece give poor Adam a, um, hand.
Heh. Well, he was very young, Trudy.
I'm totally with you, Cindy.I owe my mother a debt I can only pay forward to my own kids, in that not for a moment, despite how biblical our understanding of Christianity was, did I ever think I was a second class Christian because I have a vagina, rather than a penis.
I like your updated rendition of the Doxology, by the way. I like the original, because it's a really ancient creed, but like you said, because the Doxology is a weekly thing, it bears shaking up, now and then.
Topic!Cindy - Jan 05, 2006 11:35:01 am PST #7979 of 10002
What is even happening?
Well, the original hymns do still exist, so I do see a difference. At least they're not messing with the only version.
To me, a song only exists in a meaningful sense, when it's being played/sung. The rest of the time, there are notes on paper, telling how to make it exist.
Trudy Booth - Jan 05, 2006 11:36:02 am PST #7980 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I like the original, because it's a really ancient creed, but like you said, because the Doxology is a weekly thing, it bears shaking up, now and then.
Except for the Tango Doxology. A line must be drawn somewhere, dammit.
Jesse - Jan 05, 2006 11:36:09 am PST #7981 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
The thing that pisses me off is that newer Bible translations are often more true to the original language, while being more inclusive. The original texts weren't nearly as patricarchical as the KJV in a lot of cases.
§ ita § - Jan 05, 2006 11:38:53 am PST #7982 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
a song only exists in a meaningful sense, when it's being played/sung.
But if you can make either exist just like that (or they could both be existing at the very same time) I don't feel the same sort of loss as the desecration of something that can never be restored to its full glory. Or at least not quickly.
Nutty - Jan 05, 2006 11:48:28 am PST #7983 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
That's where it's from.
The version I know is just those three lines, and that's all. No Booth.
I dont' see a moral difference between inclusivizing-up the hymns and going into the Sistine Chapel, and repainting
Didn't people actually do that, though? Repaint on top of Renaissance paintings to drape all of the nudie with drapery? (I don't know if specifically in the Sistine Chapel, but a lot elsewhere.) So, the urge to meddle with art is not a new one.