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Natter 41: Why Do I Click on ita's Links?!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Jan 04, 2006 6:11:05 am PST #7216 of 10002
information libertarian

High levels of education do not necessarily imply high income, for men or women. Says the woman who was 50 pages away from a PhD and currently in a job a high school graduate could hold. Even if I'd gotten the PhD, college teaching is not exactly the world's most lucrative field.

I wonder if, more than income, women want to marry men who have the same level of education they have. I know I fall that way at least. I happily married a penniless grad student, and would have married, say, an artist or a school teacher, but would be less likely to marry my car mechanic or plumber, though both probably make more than the artist or teacher.

If I had it to do over again, I'd probably be a plumber or an electrician or something. But I'd have wanted to go to college first.

Edited because "peniless" looks way too much like "penisless," and that would be mean.


Jesse - Jan 04, 2006 6:11:32 am PST #7217 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Then how the fuck do people keep getting married?

THEY DON'T!!!! DON'T YOU KNOW OUR COUNTRY IS IN CRISIS???? THE FAMILY IS UNDER ATTACK!!!!!


Topic!Cindy - Jan 04, 2006 6:12:30 am PST #7218 of 10002
What is even happening?

Now that I'm getting a Master's degree, I have to dismiss like 88% of the population out of hand, and that's before we've even talked politics or salary!

It's ruff, mang.

Having been married for 11 years to the love of my life, who has a white collar job, I recommend (and he would agree), that anyone who plans on owning a home rather than renting should marry someone skilled in the trades. If it's too late for that, as it is in our case, they should encourage their children in that direction.

I miss my father, who could fix everything, and sometimes even did.


le nubian - Jan 04, 2006 6:13:43 am PST #7219 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

flea,

High levels of education do not necessarily imply high income

oh there's that. There is a huge gender disparity WRT to comparable levels of education. But the author of the fucked up NYT op-ed piece doesn't cover that shit either.


Jessica - Jan 04, 2006 6:16:24 am PST #7220 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Bogus hysterical trend pieces. No one wants to marry "down"! Everyone wants to marry "up"!

Not everyone, just women -- men only marry for looks.


Jesse - Jan 04, 2006 6:21:01 am PST #7221 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Not everyone, just women -- men only marry for looks.

And I'm pretty sure your "bookish" gals won't be goodlooking enough to snag a high-status man that way....


Nutty - Jan 04, 2006 6:21:36 am PST #7222 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Folks, this is John Tierney. If he can think up a way to bitch about how white men are oppressed, he'll do it, whether it's logical or not. He'll even do it by starting out with an anecdote purporting to make white men look like twerps (e.g., men are uniformly champions at the highest levels of Scrabble competition, "because only men are psychotic enough to memorize letter-combinations for days on end"), but in the end, it's all about conservative social whining.

What's even more annoying is that he's a fricken token conservative whiner, to balance out Krugman's insane liberal rantings. Tierney is not even that interesting (compared, especially, to Safire, who at least sometimes pulled something unconventional or libertarian out of his hindparts). His one salutory trait is that, unlike his conservative colleague David Brooks, he's not the most irritating jovial bloviator on the planet.


Rio - Jan 04, 2006 6:23:41 am PST #7223 of 10002
Are you ready to be strong?

Folks, this is John Tierney. If he can think up a way to bitch about how white men are oppressed, he'll do it, whether it's logical or not

Bingo.


Jessica - Jan 04, 2006 6:29:49 am PST #7224 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

What's even more annoying is that he's a fricken token conservative whiner

Not on this topic -- the NYTimes op-ed section has been on the "women, get back in the kitchen, you know you want to!" train for a while now. Irritates me no end.


Jesse - Jan 04, 2006 6:30:09 am PST #7225 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

ION, Bill O'Reilly was on Letterman last night. [link] I can't get the clip to work on this lame-ass computer, but I bet it's a good time.