It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Natter 41: Why Do I Click on ita's Links?!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jan 02, 2006 8:04:31 pm PST #6875 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The science of cute

It's the opposite of the Uncanny Valley.

I've had Anne's fruitcake and it is very delicious. Rumcake is my favorite though. Or bread pudding with whiskey sauce (or bourbon sauce or rum sauce). If we're sticking to the carbs soaked in alcohol food category.


tommyrot - Jan 02, 2006 8:16:06 pm PST #6876 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The science of cute

It's the opposite of the Uncanny Valley.

I dunno - I think it's theoretically possible for some CGI creature to posess high levels of both cuteness and Uncanny Valley-ness. Who knows - perhaps such things are created from time to time, only to be immediatly lost again as their creator's brains explode, resulting in an electromagnetic pulse that erases the vile creature from its hard drive home.


DavidS - Jan 02, 2006 8:17:50 pm PST #6877 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think it's theoretically possible for some CGI creature to posess high levels of both cuteness and Uncanny Valley-ness.

I don't think so. Anything that's Sorta Cute But Off is going to trigger the Uncanny Valley response.


bon bon - Jan 02, 2006 8:26:00 pm PST #6878 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Yeah, kat, South Mountain was the one I mentioned. Uncle Cece talked about it too: [link]


tommyrot - Jan 02, 2006 8:31:25 pm PST #6879 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I don't think so. Anything that's Sorta Cute But Off is going to trigger the Uncanny Valley response.

Maybe you'd end up with something like the optical illusion of the vase/two faces - the brain would be able to recognize the cute or the Uncanny Valley, but never both at the same time.


Kat - Jan 02, 2006 8:32:03 pm PST #6880 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

thanks bon! as ever, you ROCK. I wrote a snarky email to the editors at LATimes. you've made my day.


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2006 8:36:40 pm PST #6881 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Goslings is Bermudan rum! Never touch the stuff.

It might very well be good, but there's too much Appleton's between me and it.

I just had someone tell me to not see King Kong because she didn't like how it ended. I explained to her that's how the first one ended, but she was adamant that they should have taken the ape back to Skull Island. "The ape dies, Hamlet dies, Romeo and Juliet die. They're tragedies." She was suprisingly resistant to the idea. You know when you realise you just can't talk to someone?

I think it's theoretically possible for some CGI creature to posess high levels of both cuteness and Uncanny Valley-ness.

Totally!

I was just listening to a podcast about AI, and this really annoying woman was talking about Kismet (an MIT research project by one of the Roomba guys) where they decided to make the robot cute, because people wouldn't interact with the adult-looking robot appropriately. Thing is, Kismet is hideous.


tommyrot - Jan 02, 2006 8:40:11 pm PST #6882 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Kismet is freakish. I've always wanted to tell them to finish the damn thing. Of course, that might be worse.

I wonder if some day we'll have police robots that have been made cute to make them seem less threatening.

"I'm your worst nightmare - a Hello Kitty with a badge!"


Kat - Jan 02, 2006 8:40:50 pm PST #6883 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Kismet is damned scary.


Consuela - Jan 02, 2006 8:45:01 pm PST #6884 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Of course the ape dies. What the hell did she think she was watching?

I found myself not nearly as sympathetic to the ape as Jackson meant me to be, because of the volume of collateral death. It's a tricky balance, and I don't think they managed it all that well.